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Multiple serious research errors in this video.
1. The $100b includes not just construction costs but some recurrent costs, if I recall correctly even such things as replacement of the original rolling stock when it is life-expired in 40 years. That was what the opppostion party asked for the report to include, so it does – but it bears little resemblance to the actual costs.
2. Melbourne’s suburban rail network was nationalised in the 19th century when it was still two quite small disjoint railways, and its radial nature is a consequence of the "Octopus Act” of around 1890, in which the then colonial government built the lines. It was planned that way. There weren’t companies building train lines and selling the land around them like in London.
3. We drive on the left here.. you actually mirror flipped the bus footage to make it look otherwise!
4. The Commonwealth means the Federal Government, not the international organisation whose logo I assume that is.
5. Spelling of Sydney.
6. Melbourne is already more populous than Sydney.
7. The State Govenment took this to two elections and won them both, and Dan Andrews had already been Premier for a term the first time – he was not “inconing”. He won power originally by promising two other rail projects, the Metro Tunnel and the level crossing removals.
The purpose of the SRL is not to provide short-distance hops in an orbital direction – we already have a set of concentric orbital buses for that on 15 minute frequency. It is to:
1. Allow someone near the outer or middle parts of an existing railway line who needs to get to a destination on another line to do so without having to go into the city or an inner city junction. That’s why it runs at 100km/h and has so few stations.
2. Provide stations for large trip generators which lack rail. In particular, Monash University’s Clayton campus is a huge trip generator (after the airport, the biggest one without a station) and is currently served by a high intensity bus shuttle from an existing train station. SRL East will connect Monash with 4 train lines and the very high density residential area of Box Hill.
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5:18 Daniel Andrews is not the "Former Prime Minister" . He has been the Premier of Vicotoria continuously since 2014. He has never been Prime Minister of Australia
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Vic should focus on investing in our regional rail network a lot more alongside the surburban network, V/line's service is atrociously poor and a lot of our regional towns are shrivelled up shadows of what they used to be. Many towns used to have rail connections but they were pulled up many years ago unfortunately. Places like Leongatha or Mansfield would benefit from just having a train again
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It seems that the estimated value of the whole project is too high, but certainly considering that Australia is one of the richest countries in the world comparing GDP with the rest of the world, it is really strange that Melbourne and the other largest cities in Australia do not ALREADY have a much better developed urban railway network... P.S. Great video 😉...
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So Melbourne is spending 100B AUD = 60B Euros on a single new line, a tunnel and some new stations. I’m from Melbourne and now live in Paris, where for 41B Euros, 200km of new underground lines, 68 new stations and a high speed airport link to CDG are all being built. Oh and built in less than half the time… Something very inefficient somewhere in Australia.
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Given current project blowouts some local transport analysts predict it will be closer to AUD$1 trillion if it ever gets completed. They do not have funding for competing the first section as yet. The airport line project has already been stopped indefinitely. They should have the small section from the airport to Broadmeadows station as a priority. It would have provided a major win (airport rail connection) for a relatively low cost.
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We've heard the same argument about buses for decades. "Let's get rid of rail and use buses instead. They're cheaper and more flexible." All good and well, but buses have a lot of disadvantages as well, most notably that they generally share the same infrastructure as private cars. And they have far lower capacity.
Having said all that, 30 years?! There's a good chance I won't be around any more when they finish, assuming that there aren't any delays. And it sounds like an awful lot of money.
Do more videos about areas outside Europe, though. They're also doing a major rail project in Brisbane at the moment.
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Yes, New Zealand flag.
I think expanding Melbourne’s population is madness.
I live a kilometre from Melbourne’s defunct outer circle railway line. It only lasted 2.5 years. Hopefully the government can get better participation of rail usage than they could 120 years ago. I suspect the more a government spends on either rail, or roads, or bicycle paths the more attractive each will be. Therefore the more usage any of them will attract.
That’s assuming the governments are not dills. Which is a bit of a stretch of my imagination.
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1:36, Umm, that's not the Australian flag, guys!
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@KnoobGroup
8 months ago
Quick note, at 1:37, the flag shown is New Zealand's, not Australia, but they are very similar!
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