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Can A Plane Fly Too High? (West Caribbean Airways Flight 708) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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Flying high above South America, this passenger plane flew into some serious problems. On board were 160 people. The pilots were left confused as an unfolding crisis meant the plane was falling from the sky in the middle of the night and the two pilots diagnosed the problem differently. The plane fell to the ground at a high speed, in this video let’s examine the events leading up to where things began falling apart. We’ll be able to pinpoint the origin of the crisis that lead to a disaster that claimed so many lives.

West Caribbean Airways was a relatively short lived airline that operated in the years between 1998 and 2005. West Caribbean started as a charter airline connecting Colombia with various islands in the Caribbean. Based out of Bogota and Medellin, the air carrier expanded and also operated domestically within the country with a fleet of very small turboprop planes. As the airline grew over the following years, the airline acquired three McDonnel Douglas MD-80 series airplanes.
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@DisasterBreakdown

1 year ago

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@GrubbJunker

1 year ago

14:28 "Those who lived-" Oh someone lived! "- close by to the crash site arrived to discover a scene of total devastation with no survivors." Oh. Well, shit.

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@kellylingro3288

1 year ago

This one had a slightly more complex explanation than normal I really enjoyed the deeper look into the physics and how they interact with the engines

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@lostvictims9769

1 year ago

In remembrance to the victims: Captain Omar Alberto Ospina Marin, 40 First Officer David Muñoz Tavarez, 21 Technician Wilman Alejandro Estrada Technician Edgar Alberto Jerez Cortes Flight Attendant Wilson Giovanni Fallachi Chacón Flight Attendant Gustavo Adolfo Garcia Perez Flight Attendant Angela Patricia Peña Valencia, 20 Dispatcher Jhon Jairo Buendia Rodriguez Chantale Amant Bernard Antiste Clara Antiste Claude Armede Noa Bahlit Christiane Bapte Mireille Bapte Sylvain Bapte Thomas Bapte Lucien Baray Minette Baray Marie-Josee Belay George Berisson Paul Berisson Hector Bermont Francis Berton Marie-Pierrette Berton Liliane Boura Marie-Andree Bourton Ghislaine Burnet Verin Marie Pierre Cabare Catherine Marie Cabrera José Cabrera Mailys Catorc EugÚne Chassol Georgette Chassol Esther Colonnette Alex Coloras Monique Coloras Eliane Cossou Luc Bernard Cossou Raphaëlle Couffe Robert Couffe Danielle Croisy Victor Croisy Guy Delahaye Alex Desir Raymond Dijon Matrice Druze Marie-Jospehe Duranville Eugenie Ensfelder Jeannine Esther Emilie Etifier Evelyne Eudaric Therese Fabien Carmen Felicite Raoul Felicite Christian Filin Myrlene Florine Joseph Galbert Marie-Eugenie Galbert Andre Germany Delphin Germany Nelly Germany Rosemonde Germany Gisele Hierso Vernier Hierso Mirette Fanny Hierso Maurice Hierso Alex Hospice Liliane Hospice Max Iphaine Antoinette Jabert Kelly Jacqui Patrick Jacqui Carmille Jacqui Velaine Jean Francis George Jeremie Jhoanne Joachim Marie Elizabeth Joachim Jimmy Joachim-Arnaud Marie J. Joseph-Boniface Lucien Kelban Mauricette Kelban Arsene Kimper Clement Lacrampe Yolaine Lager Renée Lagier Freddy Lanoir Germany Laurent Yohan Laurent Christian Legendart Severine Lenogue Celine Luce Lucienne Luce Raphaël Magloire Benedicte Mainge Hubert Mainge Jocelyne Mainge Max Mainge Viviane Mainge Elodie Maquiaba Laure Marie Antoinette Berlin Marie Luce Marcel Marie Luce Maëva Massal Max Massal Murielle Massal Nicolas Massal Angelo Mauconduit Lisette Mauconduit Christian Montlouis Felicite Marie Odile Montlouis Felicite Mireille Moutai Serge Nal Gabriel Nancy Huguette Nancy AndrÚ Noleo Claudine Paquet Sylviane Pavilla Lydie Pelage Henry Pepinter Rose Pepinter Alix Peters Marie-Claude Peters Abdon Joseph Pierre-Louis Laurence Pierre-Louis Evelyne Porro Erick Rainette Maguy Rainette Denis-Marc Ramin Marie-Louise Ramin Gerty Raphose-Gombe Therese Raphose Valere Urbain Raphose Juanita Regis Hugutte Robin-Galbert Berthe Roch Jean Michel Rosamon Jocelyne Saffache Luce Sainte-Rose Marcel Saxemard David Scaglioni Georgette Sebastien Ginette Seraline Gislaine Surin Marie-Annick Taupin Anthony Toulon Gabrielle Toulon Aimee Valence Andre Valquin Viviane Velayoudon Sohan Venkatapen Michel Venkatapen Nadine Venkatapen Anicet Victorin Raymonde Vigilant Lucien Violton Marie-Louise Voisin Christiane Voyer Felix Voyer Karine Zongo

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@GudaGudaPaisen

1 year ago

WCA was also delaying the salary to the staffs, and Captain Ospina even had to work a bar and was coming off a shift before boarding this plane.

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@Aldairion

1 year ago

I can tell how much I've learned from your channel, because as soon as you mentioned the "cavity of air," I guessed right away that the T-tail design played a part. This reminds me of something I learned during a track driving event I participated in. The instructors taught us how to draft during high speed runs on the oval, and while it's great for building speed to pass, we were reminded to monitor our engine temps closely since airflow to the radiators is essentially blocked. As always, excellent work. Keep it up! - Aldairion

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@michaelkaliski7651

1 year ago

There is an escape manoeuvre that can be flown from a super stall which involves banking the aircraft 90Âș to re-establish airflow over the tail. It does require pilots to recognise the situation quickly and immediately initiate the recovery procedure. It is unlikely to be successfully accomplished without the loss of 15,000 feet in altitude. Hence the need for swift reaction to the problem.

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@TheNukewarfare2

1 year ago

It should be noted that tunnel vision probably contributed to the lack of response from the captain. Between the stickshaker, red “STALL” light on the panel, the CAWS supplemental stall recognition system sounding klaxons and calling out, “STALL s᎛ᎀʟʟ”, and even the copilot saying, “Es el stall, Capi,” (“It’s the stall, Captain,”)
hard to imagine that the captain would have ignored that. If he was hyper-focused on the abnormal engine values like EPR, however, everything else was probably diminished. And as you mentioned, once the AoA got into an extreme angle and the plane entered a deep stall, recovery was virtually impossible.

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@KristenDETW

1 year ago

I remember watching the Air Crash Investigation episode about this years ago. Absolutely terrifying situation. Thank you for the video!

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@cockatoo010

1 year ago

i did fly with West Caribbean. We travelled to San Andrés for my sister's 10th birthday. Same year the accidents happened and therefore the airline ceased to exist. We wen't out there in January, I wonder what the real state of the MD-80s we flew on was, since they were grounded after the L410 accident in march...

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@jacekatalakis8316

1 year ago

Forget if it's this or the SOL flight, but one of the two was so crowded it had passengers in the jump seat in the cockpit. That always stuck out to me as one of those weird facts, such as how crowded is a flight when that is how passengers are booked into the jump seat...

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@robertmcghintheorca49

1 year ago

Actually, West Caribbean Airways Flight 708 is the second deadliest accident involving the MD-80 family. It is however to be more specific, the deadliest accident involving the MD-82.

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@ImperialDiecast

1 year ago

Pulkovo flight 612 involving a Tupolev 154 crashed in this same way. It is scary to think how dangerous it is when a T-tail plane stalls because you need airflow over the horizontal stabilizers to pitch your nose down and recover from the stall. Also I feel like manufacturers should make the pylons of engines able to change pitch instead of welding them to the fuselage. This would help in recovering from stall situations where the engines are angled upward.

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@sailaab

1 year ago

11:17 Having such additional debriefs as these and not just letting is be a podcast based on final reports.. is what makes Disaster Breakdown special, better and different. . Thank you for the detailed yet crisp explanation.

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@edobeirne

1 year ago

Excellent work Chloe! The old T-tail deep stall. Very nice analysis of a subtle situation.

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@Waynestarr

1 year ago

T-tail aircraft can enter something called a "Super Stall", a type of stall it can't recover from. I read some t-tail planes have a parachute mechanism in the back to lower the nose, but it's not in most of those types of planes. Don't understand why.

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@erajehaidery2019

1 year ago

This crash happened two days after the crash of Helios airways flight 522

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@senabecool7232

1 year ago

Out of curiosity but will you one day consider Architectural disasters if you can

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@takaharatanaka8818

1 year ago

Excellent video. Thanks for the hard work.

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@nakkia_

1 year ago

Great video, Chloe! Thank you!

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