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00:00 Intro: The 20(+1?) Non-Kanto Gen 1 Pokemon
00:47 Glitch-only Pokemon: Mew & Missingno
01:43 Fossil Pokemon
02:29 A deep dive into Aerodactyl
04:03 Gift Pokemon: Lapras & Eevee
05:22 Gift Pokemon: Hitmonchan & Hitmonlee
06:25 Digital "Gift" Pokemon: Porygon
08:18 Gift Pokemon: Bulbasaur, Charmander, & Squirtle
09:36 Limited Pokemon: Snorlax
10:07 In-Game Trades: Mr. Mime
11:13 Safari Zone Pokemon: Dratini & Tauros
11:41 Safari Zone Pokemon: Exeggcute
12:57 Safari Zone Pokemon: Scyther & Pinsir
13:46 Safari Zone Pokemon: Kangaskhan
15:07 The final list
15:32 Outro
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Scyther in Sinnoh was only present in Platinum but Kleavor's existence in Hisui makes their nativeness more evident.
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2:16 Well to be fair, Legends Arceus takes place at most 200 years in the past, while Aerodactyl is said to be millions of years old
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I really like the idea that Snorlax is native to Sinnoh, given that they would have developed that thick fat to keep warm in the northern cold of Pokemon's Hokkaido.
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Some things to consider:
PLA has all the sinnoh starters be native to Sinnoh, so I think starters are intended to be native to their debut region and just happen to be rare
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So you are aware coconuts and palm fruit float on the tides. That's how they spread across so much of the world.
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On Aerodactyl, remember that legends Arceus isn’t as far away from the mainline games as it would be for the likely time periods that Aerodactyl and the other fossil Pokémon to have lived, so, it’s likely Aerodactyl existed in the region even further back, but by legends it’s extinct and ambers are deep in the ground.
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Regarding Exeggcute, "What pokemon would carry an egg/seed that far on purpose?"
Chansey. Chansey would.
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Lapras can still be native to kanto some dex entries say that it was going extinct so giving one to the player was likely a conservation effort
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Lapras is kind of an odd situation. It's pokedex entry for RB says "A Pokémon that has been overhunted almost to extinction. It can ferry people across the water." If it's been hunted to near-extinction, you would be unlikely to find it. That it appears in a cave in Johto almost seems happenstance; it's a safe place for it to be an unlikely be found. There could have been like 10 left in the wild for all we know, in which case--game mechanics-wise--you would never find it in the wild. It may still be a Kanto native. Heck, if it's a sea-faring pokemon, it may not be able to call any region native; it would likely call the ocean and many, many shores as being native. The same way we don't say that the blue whale is native to any one country, but that it has a specific habitat.
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I think the reason why most people said Exeggcute may be native to Alola is based on Exeggutor's Hoenn dex entry, which states that "originally came from the tropics". Arguably, Hoenn can be considered the next most tropical region to Alola, but they are not catchable in the region and the wording is clearly meant to imply that Exeggutor is from another place thats not Hoenn (after checking, its worth noting that the Hoenn games are the only pokedexes to state this). This alongside the fact that the Alolan dexes talks about how Alola "is considered the best environment" for (Alolan) Exeggutor and that its carved into historical buildings and murals seem to have contributed to the idea that Alolan Exeggutor can be considered the "original" Exeggutor that spread to other regions and became shorter over time.
You could say that Exeggutor has just been on Alola for a very long time and started in an another region, but at that point that could also apply to any other pokemon that are catchable in multiple regions (although I agree that you could argue that because its not like they planned for Alola and other regions 20 years in advance, Exeggcute being originally Johto still makes sense)
To me it makes sense if Gamefreak's intention was to imply that the palm tree pokemon was originally native to where normal palm trees also grow, especially considering they probably wanted to give some of the original 151 special attention and extra lore because it was the 20th anniversary.
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For references to the real world, I do take them as sort of placeholder names that the Pokemon team just didn't want to make a Pokemon equivalent for at the time. Then when they do make a Pokemon equivalent of the name, they just retcon it to have always been the case.
Look at Raichu's dex entries, for an example. Up until as recently as Pokemon Sun, its dex entries mention Indian Elephants, making both India and Elephants placeholder terms that "exist" in the Pokemon world. But in Gen 8, specifically Legends Arceus, it is then retconned to actually have been refering to Copperajah the whole time, whose native region is yet to be named (dex entries from both Galar and Paldea state that it is non-native to those regions; probably once an India region is made we'll see some native Copperajahs).
So Mew is from "Guyana" until a South America region is made. Then, boom, it was actually from that region the whole time!
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Giovanni visited Kalos and was fed up with M-Kahn destroying his team and decided to take it out on the Kantonian Kahns lol
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Personally I'd argue Eevee is native to Kalos not Unova considering how unnatural it's location is, it's in a blocked off city park, it makes more sense to me that those Eeve were imported as exotic pets(as American is prone to do)that were either released or escaped/being the descendents of those that did, it makes more sense that it would naturally be in a route not a city
It also makes more sense lore wise being the first region where all of it's evolutions are available
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Using a nearly extinct pokemon because you were the sole cause of their extermination is 100% a Giovanni top tier move.
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I think Eevee being native to Kalos is a better bet than Unova simply due to how Castelia Park is as a location, being a small patch of perfectly designed grass in the middle of a massive city, its absolutely not a natural location that any pokemon would be native to.
Proven by its other encounters being Petilil & Cottonee (plants in a park who wouldve guessed), Rattata & Pidove (generic NYC animals being rats & pigeons), and then the 3 extremely out-of-place encounters being Buneary, Skitty, & Eevee. 3 pokemon with correlation to common pet types (Rabbit, Cat, Canine-like). I wouldnt call rats native to cities despite being so common there- same case with Eevee (and it being even less common).
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Something worth noting is that Pokémon can just be native to more than one region. The first four main regions, Sevii, and Kitakami are all based on Japan, so naturally they're going to see heavy overlap in species distribution.
For example, Lapras and Snorlax.
Lapras can be found wild in Union Cave and in Four Island Cave.
Snorlax is likely native to both Kanto and Sinnoh. Kitakami is between the two, and it can be found there as well. Given that Snorlax is said to return to the mountains, and we only ever explore the mountain caves, it seems likely to me that Snorlax lives on top of the mountains, where we aren't allowed to go.
On Porygon, I don't think it needs to be found in the wild to considered native. It would be more appropriate to say it was invented in Kanto, given that it is entirely artificial.
Following from Snorlax's logic, I think it's safe to say that there's a lit of Pokémon we can visit the natural habitat for because of game limitations.
Emerald's dex confirms Kabuto isn't even actually extinct - some very rare living examples can be found. Just not by us.
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Snorlax is said to be from "the mountains," so technically you could say it's from Sinnoh because it's the only region with a fully explorable mountain range with wild Munchlax galore.
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To me, just because a Pokémon appears in the wild in a game first, doesn't mean they're from there. For example, it makes much more sense for Eevee to be native to Kalos as all of its evolutions are present there, and there is an abundance of them compared to in Castelia City, where you have to go undergroud in a sewer to get to an alleyway just to get an Eevee which is a rare encounter in the few patches of grass there. I doubt that everyone whos gifts an Eevee went to the sewers in Unova to get Eevees. Fun video though! I really like this!
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Lorewise, the Kanto starters are CLEARLY meant to be from Kanto, just so rare that you don't manage to find any. That's why so many different Kanto trainers have them and are able to give them out as gifts. Let's Go was being completely consistent with the established lore, there.
EDIT: Also, Snorlax is specifically stated to return to the mountains if you defeat it. Presumably those are the mountains visible near Kanto on the map that you never actually visit.
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@mr.cynicalz8924
1 month ago
Great video! I always love pokemon theory and lore content like this. One small thing though, Eevee can't be native to Unova. It's stated multiple times by Juniper and Bianca that all the old Pokemon now availiable in BW2 have only recently entered the region from migration within the past 2 years. So you were right about the Kalos thing, because that's the first region where Eevee can be caught in the wild and it isn't specified as a recent introduction to the region.
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