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Genre: Education
Date of upload: Premiered Dec 4, 2020 ^^
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As someone who has published in the academic field of porn studies, I feel like I might have something to add: Academic research into sex work and pornography has a variety of dispositions and assumptions that vary according to field i.e. legal scholars and criminologists might have a juridical frame; a philosopher might ask ontological or ethical questions etc.
Sometimes it makes complete sense to speak directly to the people involved in the porn industry, and this not only involves the performers and other producers of content, but also people viewing content. However, there are also other times when the kind of research being undertaken does not call for the perspective of these folks.
Let me give an example, lest anyone think I'm trying to de-legitimise anyone's perspective: if you were conducting a content analysis of the most frequently viewed clips on a site over a given period, then you wouldn't be involving the perspective of the workers any more than you'd be involving the perspective of the consumers: the empirical focus is on the content itself.
If, however, you're wanting to understand the perspective of the folks involved in production and consumption then of course you should elicit their perspective rather than presupposing their view.
I also agree that if you want to understand the sociology of the porn industry then you need to understand the perspectives of all those involved in production and consumption.
This was yr best video yet and I've loved 'em all!
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I didn't agree with the actress who said that journalists and academics should focus on stars who are known by name. By definition, the biggest stars are the minority of sex workers, the vast majority of sex workers are relatively unknown and so I feel like they would give the better view of what working in the industry is actually like. If you only interview big stars who are currently relevant you're going to get a very biased report because people aren't going to complain about their success and risk future work opportunities.
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One thing that struck me, and I hate that it did but this is part of my unraveling of all of my learned implicit biases, was how well-spoken all the sex workers in this video are. I feel like thereâs this perception that sex work is a last resort for people who canât be successful in school or land a ârealâ job and that just isnât true. These people arenât dumb or fuck ups, theyâre just as valid as anyone else. Great video!
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Back when I was planning out a bigger career in porn, I definitely had a lot of conflicted feelings on mindgeek and subsidiaries that non-sex workers never talk about. I hated Pornhub on one hand bc the small porn producers that I was getting hired by kept getting their (our...my) work stolen and really cut into how much they were making and how much I was getting paid. But on the other hand, I really hoped to be able to work regularly for them on like Fake Taxi or Reality Kings bc the standards would be more consistent than what I was used to.
Another thing I appreciate is Cherie DeVille pointing out which sex workers get interviewed. I did sex work and I certainly have my opinions but I wasn't in the industry as long as or on the level of people who are way more qualified to talk about this subject. Just like any other industry there are people with more or less experience and expertise.
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My only real issue with porn is that it does shit like barely legal porn and people will start doing it as soon as they turn 18 and a bunch of sick dudes will beg them to make it as soon as they turn 18. And Iâve seen children who arenât legal try to find ways around making something like an onlyfans. I have literally seen that shot with my own eyes itâs so so vile.
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It's 2am, so I should definitely rewatch this again soon at a less ungodly hour, and perhaps I'll interpret the conversation differently but - whilst I absolutely agree with Cherie that "Hot Girls Wanted"-esque documentaries / Julie Bindel-esque journalists will routinely ask people whose experiences are a minority, with extremely negative results, it sounded like Cherie was proposing instead that only the biggest stars of the industry warranted interviewing. This feels like a pretty iffy addition to the "whorearchy," which would mask that fact that the rockstars of the industry are in a position of privilege, and someone with privilege not recognising the experiences of someone without it comes as no surprise.
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Remember when Patreon allowed sex workers on it? Remember how sex workers built a large part of Patreon's early success, only to be kicked off of the platform?
Man... feels like OnlyFans is going to pull the same move as soon as it can get away with it. Wishing for a world where sex workers can use the same platforms as anyone else.
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@Bobthemonster24
3 years ago
the reason that it's hard to google the definition of a vertical monopoly is that google is a vertical monopoly
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