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Table of Contents:
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00:00 Intro
00:48 Overview
01:52 Sonible smart:gate
02:44 The drum loop
03:12 smart:gate UI and controls
06:00 smart:gate on Snare
07:02 smart:gate on Hihat
07:46 SpectraLayers
08:29 SpectraLayers in Cubase - Unmixing Drums
10:00 Compare the results
11:06 In use as FX track
12:55 Conclusion
13:52 Outro
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Tried spectralayers on a stereo-liverecording from a mixing-board. The drums was way too quiet in the mix. And the vocals too load. It worked fine to turn down the vocals. Turning up the drums did not work. But I was able to capture single drumhits, when the rest of the music did not play. Used the drumhits as samples in Trigger2 (by Slate-digital). The cymbal track was usable with some audio-automation. And now the mix sounds perfectly ballanced, thanx to Spectralayers. Great tool š
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Thank you for your work. That was a good comparison and conclusion were enlightening.
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Aliasing is always a problem when separating a stereo file to stems using SpectraLayers (SL). However, after finding it almost unusable in SL9 I find it very usable in SL10. I use it mainly for separating vocals, bass and drums (and sometimes guitars) from a full stereo track. Played together they sound just fine. But as you mentioned, when auditioning the separated tracks individually there is noticeable aliasing. I have found that (obviously) the quality of the source track can make a huge difference in the quality of the separation. But I've been working on separating and restoring some old tapes that were recorded live in the late 1970's, and for what you mentioned, basically using FX on individual tracks, I've found, it works quite well and the result very usable in this case. And of course having control of the levels of the individual tracks really helps as well.
And, thanks for another great video!š
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thamks for the videoš
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To compensate for artifacts you can use your separated kick, snare or hihat result as a sidechain source with a standard gate. smartGate is the best realtime gate plugin I've tried.
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If you're recording your own multitrack drums
It would be cool with a custom AI separator where you could import sounds of your snare drum close mic
and have it cleaning out bleed with that.
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Did you try taking, say, the Spectralayers Kick output and putting it back into Spectralayers to visually identify the unwanted bleeds? Ok itās another ten minutes of work but if itās just a repeating loop itād be worth it. Iāve tried SL manual editing before and itās very intuitive. Big learning curve to really use it all though š BTW really enjoying your calm delivery in all things Cubase. Iāve re-learned a lot and much more besides! Iāve recently returned to v13 after trying Logic and finally Studio One v6 where I became discouraged by their corporate interference and move to subscription model. Grrrrr.
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I'd suggest the following workflow, not ideal, but should use the strengths of both tools.
Use Smart Gate to obtain (multiple velocity or hit type) clean samples of the individual drum elements.
Use SpectraLayers individual drum layers to trigger a drum replacement VST containing the Smart Gate Samples, for each individual drum element.
You can also then create whatever drum track you want using these clean samples.
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SPL 10 is the winner...š
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Clearly spectral layers is the bigger deal and has the most capabilities, going way, way beyond this one application. It doesn't make the smart gate plug unuseful. For a lot of applications, when you just want a really good gate... And for things like multi mic'd drum kits... Noisy guitar amps, that kind thing. it would probably be the more sensible option to reach for. But it be worth checking out spectral layers for some of those jobs as well, For sure. It might just do some of them better and almost as quickly.
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SL for the Win.
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I would like to know how does Spectralyers 10 compare to the latest Izotope RX 10. Those are rarely compared on YT.
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A question that actually does not really have anything to do with the Subject of the video... indirectly it does tho, I used to be able to sidechain the sonible smart plugins in cubase, but after a clean install, the button dissapeared on those plugins... is there a setting i might have forgot in cubase for this?
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Good video but you did not use the multiband isolation available in sonible which provides great results , spectralayers is good but for drum if you dig deep into sonible you will surely get better result
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But does smart gate allow breaking the drum elements into separate tracks?
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A comparison to Sonnox gate would be interestingā¦
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I'm more convinced by SL10
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Use a drum replacer, that what I do
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Spectralayers makes smartgate look, ummā¦ not so smart. This would be a very easy decision.
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@LanewoodStudios
10 months ago
So what do you think? Which one do you prefer and what would you use it for?
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