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The company only lasted 3 years, but in that time a bevy of up and coming science fiction and fantasy authors would write some of their career defining books. Ian Watson revolutionised our understanding of 40k with Inquisitor, Kim Newman brought levity, humour, and horror to the stages of the Old World with Drachenfels, and a clutch of talented writers like Stephen Baxter, Brian Stableford, Charles Stross, and of course Bill King would all create memorable works.
This is the story of the failed attempts to create a new publishing company for Games Workshop's worlds - even the failures that were tremendous successes.
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Corrections:
- At ~11:28 I mistakenly say 1998 when I meant to say 1988.
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Links & Sources:
[Stephen Baxter, Freedom in an Owned World, Vector Magazine - 2006]
web.archive.org/web/20120125042907/http://www.vect…
[William King, Combat Phase Podcast Interview - 2019]
[combatphase.libsyn.com/ep-278-heresy-fantasy-40k-w…]
[Kim Newman, Introduction to Vampire Genevieve - 2005]
johnnyalucard.com/non-fiction/articles/an-introduc…
[Dragonlance Collection]
www.redlib.matthew.science/r/dragonlance/comments/ln3m66/my_dr…
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
Came here for the "...hello." Was NOT disappointed. 10/10 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
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This channel's content just keeps getting better and better. When I was 13, my family went abroad on holiday for the first time, so i was allowed to buy 1 new book to read on the plane. The book I chose was Drachenfels which I loved, and consequently began to follow Kim Newman's later work (Anno Dracula being possibly the best vampire novel after Dracula itself).
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If you haven't done it already I'd LOVE to see you do a video covering Dark Future, unlike GWs other 'forgotten games' like Confrontation it is, as you pointed out, the only one to ever get novel tie ins and be more fleshed out...only to completely disappear by the early 90s. I can distinctly remember being in a GW store in...1992...I think and seeing the Comeback Tour novel still on the shelf for sale but absolutely no sign of the game it was meant to be attached to.
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I still have my Boxtree edition Drachenfels sitting proudly on my shelf (though I have to say the last few times I read it was in ebook format). I LOVE that book. Its probably one of my top five novels and a always zoom through it much faster than I usually finish any other book. There's just something about Kim Newman's writing that makes it so easy to read and the setting so real.
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Really loved Drachenfels, that is a REALLY GREAT story, with a pretty neat twist. Not to mention it intriduced me to my favourite GW character, The Vampire Genevieve.
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I loved those old Ian Watson books. They were gloriously mental.
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History lessons have never been more fun to listen too!
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What would a Pratchett Warhammer novel be like? The mind boggles!
A little bit of (unnecessary, you likely already know) context: the reason Dave Langford’s letters are likely so tongue-in-cheek is because he and all the authors he wrote to were regulars on the UK sci-fi convention scene and they already knew one another. He likely knew they would have a skeptical view towards any GW publication at that time and approached them thus.
Fantastic video btw!
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One of the most interesting things about Kim Newman's Dark future novels is that they are one of the few books that mention (by name) entities from the Cthulhu mythos and the Chaos gods.
They are set in an alternate history of our Earth. One where Elvis presly gave up on his music career and joined the mimitary, eventually attaining the rank of colonel. It's little nodds like this that make Newman so much fun to read.
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It saddens me that I didn't live in the 80s, they had so much cool stuff.
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Loved this video. Love early GW Books. So glad you covered this. Also, love the hint toward the march toward the Black Library and Inferno magazine! Huge influence on me starting my own tabletop short story magazine.
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Hi Jordan. Love the channel!
I have 6 original Dark Future books from the 1990s. The 6th book (which also has the wonderfully gaudy red cover) is the actual novel ‘Route 666’ which expands on the short story of the same name which was from the 1990 anthology of the same name (confusing!). It was written by Yeovil and published by Boxtree in 1993. The only book I don’t have is United States Calvary which was promised but never produced. I must say I’m proud to own all of the fantastic books you’ve covered here.
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Hell yes! Looking forward to hear you read those.
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So that's why 'Spell of Empire' felt like warhammar fantasy with the serial numbers filed off. A most enjoyable read!
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My friends got into Warhammer 40,000 when we were in 7th grade, exposing me to it to the degree that, of course, I also had to be interested and get involved. I went out and picked up White Dwarf 117; my first issue featured the Drachenfels WFRP stats and, most importantly, the Yeovil story "No Gold In The Grey Mountains". While we bought miniatures, it never seemed like anyone actually played the games; for my part, my true interest became the worlds and those large-format books were my way into it. (I always preferred the bigger books to those awful tiny paperbacks. GW was ahead of the curve on larger-format presentations and I adored the art style.)
I don't think I've ever cared about any fiction as much as I did those early GW books. As a matter of habit, nostalgia, or necessity, I collected all the Warhammer, 40K, and Dark Future books up until around 2005 or 2006. I've still never played Warhammer Fantasy Battle and haven't touched 40K since second edition. First edition Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay stands as one of my favorite roleplaying games of all time and is the only fantasy game I'd bother with, though I'm not sure how many decades it's been since I last played it with another human. That era of GW, particularly its fiction, had a huge and lasting effect on my tastes, my own desire to write, and the tone I looked for in my reading.
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Great research, fascinating story of how GW novel range began. I read the Orfeo trilogy again earlier this year, wonderfully captures that tainted world I love. My favourite WH book is Drachenfels which led me to Anno Dracula years later. Jordan Sorcery Book Club sounds good, perhaps I'll join in for the Jack Yeovil portions of your adventure.
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A Games Workshop Record Label?! Heck I want to see how that timeline evolved!
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Original copies of Drachenfels and the Demon Download trilogy are sitting on my shelf right now :) Love those books.
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The Dark Future novels were some genuinely good cyberpunk alt/future/history stuff, and Drachenfels stands out as a clever horror pastiche novel in it's own right, with some actually creepy parts. The Konrad novels are a pretty good read still as well, very much 3rd ed./WFRP Empire and Realm of Chaos. Hell, even Ian Watson's novels are kind of sophisticated, by 80's 'avant garde' sci fi standards, if you ignore the childish (although admittedly funny) recent criticism from TTS and S&W.
Weirdly, bits of Space Marine still permeate the Imperial Fists background to this day- Necromundia recruits, geneseed flaws, scrimshawing, and the pain glove... oh, the pain glove.
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@noops9220
9 months ago
If you want to listen to the Ignorant armies stories instead of reading them, the Oldhammer Fiction podcast does a good job of reading them
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