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Gender Games: Trans women and sport | Full Episode | SBS Insight
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Do transgender women belong in women’s sports? On Gender Games, we hear from transwomen and female athletes about inclusion, fairness and safety. Can sports be inclusive and fair? Or do we need clearer laws to protect women’s sports?

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@stephenmcdonagh2795

1 year ago

It's annoying that transexuals who want to compete in women's sports are acting like victims- they're not the victims in this situation, women are.

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@divinenation22

1 year ago

Biological men should not compete against biological women in women's sports. It's not complicated, let's put an end to this inverted BS

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@paulrodrigues5562

2 years ago

Odd you don't see women who identify as men playing at elite level.

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@offlier

1 year ago

This isn't rocket science. They should form their own team.

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@trainerdisability

1 year ago

You can’t make everyone see you the way you see yourself. Asking everyone to participate in a lie is unfair.

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@kelly-kx2io

2 years ago

I'm almost 44 years on hormones & closing on 4 decades post-op. This is utter madness and should not be allowed. It's nothing more than legalized cheating in my eyes to allow a male to female trans person to compete in women's sport and no It is not being transphobic to speak out about this, It's just stating the obvious. When I was younger and used to go work out at the Gym with my late husband. I got on well with the gym owner's wife. One day she took me to one side and asked me if I was going to enter the Miss physique contest that was coming up. I said no what ever made you think that. I workout for my own benefit not to compete against others. I would not do that, it would be so unfair. That's not something I could ever do to a woman. The relief on her face was overwhelming; she was almost in tears. She said it had been worrying her for some time as we would have been in the same Height and weight class and that she had won many years running. She was 6ft tall & I was 5ft 9" just over. Today's trans people seem to be so far removed and blinkered to what being female is that they can not even empathise with a woman or see their own advantages they have over them in these areas when it comes to competing in sports. I find it hurtful and embarrassing. what it is to be transsexual as been hijacked over the decades and made a mockery of by these types that you point out. Its gone from transsexuals fixing a personal mind and body mismatch issue with one's self and then getting on with our lives unnoticed as best we can. To folk now who do not want to make any effort to be what they claim to be who actually thrive on the attention and privileges it grants them under the term transgender with all these new woke laws etc. Many are out to make others around them change their perceptions of what a woman is or fall foul of the woke policing. It is lunacy at its best. I get labelled at TERF quite often because I will not side with these folks and their crazy demands and expectations. Transsexuals should not even be lumped under the term transgender as far as i am concerned. It's not even in the same postcode. I find all this very demeaning of all I went through and suffered growing up in the 1970's and early 1980s to be happy within my own skin. My intentions and actions back then were to change myself so I could be happy within my own skin, not to force the world around me to change or pay the price. There are different definitions of the word TRANSGENDER , The most prevalent is those who are political in nature and refers to anyone who considers themselves as different in terms of sex or gender. Most transsexual persons refuse to be lumped in with the TG Community, but others like non-op TG persons see political value in working together. A transgender person is someone who deliberately lives in a way opposed to their physical sex. For example, if a person is born with female genitalia and wants to keep it, but expresses and feels that they are a boy mentally, then they are transgender. Transsexual and transgender is not the same thing as transsexual is only applicable to those born with a need to correct their genitals as best they can, while most transgender people desire to keep their original genitalia. A person is born with transsexualism, the whole idea of the surgery is to stop having transsexualism and to get on with life as if they never had the condition. For me and many of my old friends it was important to fix our mind and body mismatch ASAP and then get on with our lives. Often going stealth and only letting those who need to know about our past know. The term transgender covers a wide spectrum of different folks. Most of whom are more vocal/visible. Hence more well known by the public online and offline as they tend to go out of their way to make their presence known and felt. Where as many of use old school transsexual's the aim was to fix the issue and move on with our lives unnoticed. Many of us had to make big sacrifices like losing family members and old friends and moving to avoid publicity at times. As that for us would defeat the whole object of fixing the issues we had with ourselves in the 1st place. For us it is not a badge we wear. Just a distant unhappy memory we rather leave behind us and not dwell on. This leads to our side of the story being less heard by the public, leaving them to assuming the outspoken ones most often seen kicking off on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram & YouTube etc are what its all about for all under the umbrella term transgender. Which is not the case at all. There are many of us out there in the world that can hold conversations with folk who disagree with us without resorting to branding them transphobic or getting catty and bitchy. It's a shame so many of these outspoken trans folks will brand someone transphobic at the drop of a hat yet forget it took themselves years to understand and accept their own situation. Bit hypocritical if you ask me. But hey that's what happens when what it is to be transsexual gets hijacked and turn in to a trans radical agenda/movement. It's now become a money spinner for many. It's like reality TV with a large helping of soap opera thrown in for good measure. Fed to an ever growing gullible audience grasping at straws. They have only gotten away with it for so long because transsexuals tend to avoid outing themselves as it defeats the object of fixing the mind and body mismatch in the 1st place if you're going to and broadcast that you did it. I'm older now my husband as passed away I have nothing to loose and some one needs to speak up for the genuine transsexuals and point out the difference that the transgender agenda as tried to blur. I did my SRS in the beginning of the1980s then I just got on with my life with my late husband after my surgery. So was quite shocked when after my husband sudden death 31 years later and I went searching for a Post-op Transsexual widows support group and only found the embarrassing radical transgender agenda movement crap online that only serves to make a mockery of what it is to be Transsexual and trample all over women right as if they don't even matter. Many of today's trans folk are a breed unto themselves who lack empathy for women and women's rights. I find all this shameful, embarrassing and hurtful. My advice to anyone who is planning to come out as trans, is to invest in some big girl knickers 1st and stop trampling all over women's rights.

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@kiraos6732

1 year ago

How is this even a topic. It baffles me that there are adult, seemingly functional people that think it's ok for someone that is born and go through puberty as a male to participate in women's sport. It's complete insanity.

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@sharonfoy2410

2 years ago

So why don’t they have transgender women competing against other transgender women?? That would be a level playing field.

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@mimiruss8444

1 year ago

This person who said they would always be viewed as a man in a dress, was hurt. Biological sex is real, a trans woman is just that a TRANS woman. You will always be a trans woman, it’s a fact. You can not be a biological woman no matter how you feel. It’s sad, it’s tragic that you have this condition if your trans and I don’t celebrate your emotional difficulties. I recognize them. However, these trans women, ie biological men, don’t respect women’s spaces and demand equality based solely on how they self identify.

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@ParArdua

1 year ago

When Oscar Pristorius tried to join the Men's category in athletics, the other male athletes and officials called for biomechanical testing of his carbon fibre prostheses. They were found to give him an unfair advantage against Men, and so he competed within a category of para-athletics. No screaming about "amputee-phobia". This seems to be a solution for these people—a separate category where they can compete fairly against one another.

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@sci8911

1 year ago

Because some men are uncomfortable, women have to move over

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@RandomCarrot2806

2 years ago

Surely the clue is in the name. TransGENDER, not tranSEXUAL as it used to be called before the distinction between gender and sex filtered out into the mainstream 10 or so years ago. As the feminist around 10minutes says, let male compete against males and females compete against females. And if you don't think that's fair, why should the rules be changed to benefit the 1% over the 99%? Or to be more specific, why should 1% of males get to dominate 99% of females?

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@preciousbell4573

2 years ago

You can’t have transgender in women’s sports regardless of what goes on in their mind, their bodies are still men’s bodies. It’s not a fair competition. The reason sports are divided into men’s and women’s is because people realise women have different bodies, stamina etc and weaker compared to men. Women can never be equal to men physically because women are created differently from men and are made to do different things in life. Transgender in women’s sports means inequality to other women, they will be at a disadvantage. Stop being illogical and ridiculous.

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@Jdinrbfidndifofkdndjoflfndjdk

2 years ago

Size, bone structure still an advance. Transgender needs a new category... Period

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@simoncook3567

1 year ago

As a sportsman I cannot believe this issue is still rumbling around. At a professional level we have categories: Senior Men, Senior Women, U20 Men, U20 Women, Junior Men, Junior Women… see the pattern? Transgender want a category… NO PROBLEM… create one 👍

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@nicoledeloncrais5940

1 year ago

I am a woman, you know that traditional type with a womb!! I grew up competing in the pool and athletes. If this was taken from me, while males moved into yet another arena and I could be a protected female athlete I would have felt violated. I am a woman, born a woman, with ALL of the struggles unique to women. Yes!!! Women have their struggles too. Let us have our own playing Fields. Play socially, but you are NOT women. I am not anti trans, I am anti the violation of woman's sports. I fully support what Martina Navratilova has said. You want to be respected, so do we.

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@JG-yh9rh

1 year ago

Why don't they create a transgender only option? In addition to males and females? Its the only way I see of things being fair for everyone where transgender women (and transgender men also) can still compete. I get that they see themselves as women (or men) but seeing and actually being a woman biologically is not the same. No matter how much you argue otherwise. It is still male bodies competing with female bodies and that will never be fair competition. To me this is not a complicated issue at all. Just create new categories for transgender people.

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@sundayswithlucy

1 year ago

Feelings are not facts. Biology is facts.

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@bwiel

2 years ago

And you know, even in the possibility that testosterone blockers took away a mans advantage in a sport (which I don't buy)...he still shouldn't compete against women, because women deserve to be able to be in spaces without men. Just as men should be able to have spaces without women. It's surely a human right to be able to gather exclusively at times, with those who are like us in some way.

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@Rhea303

1 year ago

Solution: Trans-gender-games.

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