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We open by talking about some of the different ways that astrology can speak to the topic of death, both by looking at a person's birth chart and the charts of people who are close to them.
Eventually the conversation delves into the complexities of interpreting astrological indicators of death, as well as the need for caution, sensitivity, and ethics when discussing such topics.
The episode is meant to provide a broad exploration of the topic of astrology and death, highlighting the ways in which astrology can offer insights into the experience of mortality and the grieving process, and this lays a foundation for doing more detailed treatments of specific subtopics in future episodes.
This is episode 427 of The Astrology Podcast:
theastrologypodcast.com/2023/11/19/astrology-and-dβ¦
Madeline's website:
www.honeycomb.co/
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:23 Can astrology speak to death?
00:08:17 Astrology reflects interconnectedness of lives
00:11:18 Multiple indications for important events
00:20:05 Mundane astrology and societal events
00:23:35 Astrology can symbolize personal tragedies
00:28:36 Importance of community in recovery
00:37:10 Astrology predicts life experiences symbolically
00:40:11 Astrologers cope with death
00:49:30 8th house experiences and loss
00:54:49 Eclipses can signify major life changes
01:00:39 Eclipses and death correlations
01:03:40 Loss and grief impact on individuals
01:10:50 The study of fate and fortune
01:17:30 Ethical concerns in predicting death
01:22:01 The need to specialize and study deeply
01:32:43 Astrology can help in coping
01:34:39 Astrology can provide reassurance
01:39:09 Finding meaning in difficult experiences
01:45:51 Finding meaning in grief
01:51:27 Hope in adversity
01:57:06 Empathy as a valuable gift
02:06:10 Embracing fate for inner peace
02:12:06 Astrology can offer healing
02:14:22 Support the Astrology Podcast
Views : 38,750
Genre: Education
Date of upload: Nov 20, 2023 ^^
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
Finally! Astrologers address this topic which is seen as SO taboo but yet is very interesting and quite critical. Death is part of life and TOTALLY ignored by astrologers. THANKYOU for sharing this!
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That was me. I changed my travel plans but would have been on the flight from Boston to LA. I have Jupiter in the 12th house. I also didnβt get a job one summer in college at a Starbucks by my house and sadly the employees were robbed and murdered. I feel like my Jupiter in the 12th is spiritual protection.
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Chris and Madeline, thank you for this. I get annoyed at astrologers who think this subject is too sensitive or taboo to even approach it. We have to be able to discuss it.
To our fore-bearers, death was always close and was just a part of life. People were much more comfortable with death because they didn't have the luxury of hiding it away from themselves. A hundred years ago or more, If grandma died, you laid her out on the table for a "wake". You would have a lot of children because the chances of them all making it to adulthood were slim to none. You would dig the grave, or build the pyre, or prepare the body. This was all very normal and expected. Death is very much a part of the human experience and we need to be able to embrace it and talk about it!
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I saw my friend's death in his horoscope after learning of his lung cancer in September of last year. His Chiron return in Aries began at the same time, Eris was also conjunct his natal Eris in Aries 8th house while Pluto was lingering in the first few degress of his 6th house at the tail end of Capricorn. I tried to stay positive for him but inside I knew what was happening. Unbeknownst to me at the time, his 8th house Pisces (houses were split) indicated suicide could occur. He suffered horribly, unable to breathe and unwilling to change his diet, and no doubt fearful of what was happening to him. Knowing your once vibrant life is coming to an end must have been difficult for a manifesting generator. I knew once his body couldn't move any longer he would not be able to live. His larger than life silhouette came to me when his life ended. I didn't realize what I was seeing at the time. I saw myself being held against the chest of this giant shadow figure. I went to sleep after that then found out a few days later he had died. His 50th birthday would have been next week. He was my favorite person on the planet. I'm a Taurus Sun, Scorpio Rising, Capricorn Moon.
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My husband was a Capricorn Sun, he passed the very day Saturn ingressed into Capricorn in spring of 2018;
Three days prior to that I was trying to do a personal reading for a client and in retrospect I realized I was predicting his murder! It was extremely difficult for me to even touch my cards for the next three years.
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Condolences on your Mom's death. Mine died in the late 1990s. Losing a parent is huge. My heart goes out to you
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Hello Madeline and Chris- Back in 1992 right at the start of my Saturn return in Aquarius- my mother was hit my a car and died.
She left behind myself and my 3 younger siblings. I met with my most profoundly insightful astrologer at the time to seek some answers.
She pulled up all 5 charts. My Mom and her 4 children.
What she noticed was that at the time of her accident all 4 of her children were actually having Pluto aspects which could have resulted in death. Yet my Mothers chart did not.
She felt that her intuition had her sacrifice her life for us.
My Mother was a Pisces with Moon in Pisces.
I never questioned this and makes much sense to me.
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I've been studying this in my chart in regard to my mother and my husband's passing; I'm also trying to prepare for my grandmother's celebration of life because I feel it so intensely near ....
I'm sorry for your loss Chris π
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I think if anyone could facilitate a conscious, tactful yet insightful conversation about such a sensitive topic it would be you, Chris. And I think for that reason I would love to see a discussion of the length of life technique, I think you would be able to do it justice with all the sensitivity and consideration it deserves. Madeline is incredibly insightful and I appreciate her candour when talking about her experiences, also had no idea she was a cofounder of the Honeycomb almanac!! Fantastic discussion, thank you both so much.
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Extremely curious about this now more than ever. My niece was just brutally removed from this earth yesterday 11/19/23 π’
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When Pluto entered my 8H death became my life. I started working in a cemetery, living in a funeral home and dating the grave-digger.
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Chris and Madeline I thank you both so much for discussing this topic today. I felt your respect come through, as I so needed to hear this now. Im still raw in grief over the recent passings of 2 great loves of my life. One passed in May the other last month in October. I felt an understanding from you both that's eased me in my Circle of Life today
Much gratefulness and blessings and love to you Madeline and Chris
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Thank you for this episode.
I lost my brother this fall, and tracked his quick demise through the transits and eclipses; in some strange way I found some comfort in the astrology. The grief is still profound, but it helps as you said find some meaning in his passing.
This is an important topic that everyone has to deal with at some point, thank you for this discussion.
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Forensic Astrology would be an interesting topic for a show.
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Thank you Chris and Madeline for discussing this topic. Condolences to ALL who have recently lost someone.π I have my sun, mercury, mars, uranus and pluto all in the 8th house.. Plus a Scorpio MC, conjunct Lilith with Neptune in the 10th as well . When I first learned about my chart, I used to be a bit worried of what all that energy could imply, but not anymore. Taurus rules my 4th house of ancestry, which puts my Venus in the 7th. I believe my transition will be peaceful, surrounded by my husband and close family. Along with my deceased parents coming to escort me away.β€
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Finally! Was wondering if this episode would happen yes! So much curiosity about how taboo it is to even bring up with astrology.
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I have thought, as an Rn who works primarily with cancer patients that it would benefit many of us to know when our lives will end. The reason being that we live in a world that is both superficial and violent. There are many more mature and older souls among us
but not enough to make earth a more functional and compassionate place to live. I heard that there is a technique in Vedic astrology that can do this calculation, but I also understand that it is no longer seen as appropriate and not done.
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What a beautiful share Chris about your sister and mom ....π
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This is the topic I've been looking forward to hearing astrologers discuss. At last! Thank you so much, Chris and Madeline.. I'm really looking forward to this. Love, allππ
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@diamondgirl999
5 months ago
During my first Saturn return, around 1979, I lost my mother and father to cancer - 3 1/2 weeks apart - and my husband and I got a divorce. The most challenging year of my life. I literally felt like I was suffocating. My personal life got out of control for a time. One very early morning as I was playing poker in Reno, drinking Jim Beam and chain smoking, truth, a man sitting across from me with a cowboy hat on, said to me: "What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?" It was a wake up call from the universe. I finished my hand, headed back to the airport and flew home to San Jose. After that I went cold turkey - gave up drinking and smoking, finalized my divorce, gave my ex the house, and with 2 suitcases with all my belongings, I got on a Pan American plane to SE Asia. By the end of the summer I ended up visiting and subsequently living at a Buddhist community in Northern California.
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