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Madison Square Garden & NY Penn Station - the Fight for a New York City Block
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On the singular block between 31st and 33rd streets, and 7th and 8th avenues in Manhattan, New York, exists one of the most crucial battles for control in the city. Madison Square Garden, its tenants, and investors, and New York Penn Station and the millions of passengers who use it, are at a standoff for control over the block; does the entertainment remain, or is it sacrificed for the good of the public transit system? Watch the video to find out the full story!


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@holycrapchris

1 month ago

Fun fact: the current MSG is actually MSG #4. The various MSGs have been rebuilt and relocated since the 19th century.

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@corycoral7072

1 month ago

Rethink Penn is beautiful and deserves this plan to work. It’s beautiful and would be a great edition to the city

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@DannyEastVillage

1 month ago

Move the Garden to Hudson Yards, give 'em their own Amtrak/NJ Transit station so patrons of Garden events don't have to come all the way into Penn station and then backtrack to the Garden

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@drwho9437

1 month ago

MSG could be put near any transit accessible location. I mean there is space just blocks away over Hudson yards! Meanwhile the space over the platforms at Penn is not really movable without 100s of billions in cost. MSG has to move. As for restoring the historic design, I think that is silly nostalgia. It was a mistake to tear it down but it is gone and that error shouldn't be compounded by more errors. Build something grand that looks to and has room for the future.

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@Nonamearisto

1 month ago

They really should rebuild the old neoclassical Penn Station. Destroying it was a tragic error. Rebuilding it is no more unrealistic than France rebuilding Notre Dame after its fire.

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@trumpsupporter7772

1 month ago

Rebuilding the old Penn Station would correct a tragic error. There are plenty of empty office blocks in Manhattan that can't find tennats and could be demolished allowing the relocation of Maddison Square Garden.

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@mackenja43

1 month ago

Tremendously informative and interesting video! Thank you..

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@TheFarix2723

1 month ago

Is relocating MSG not an option? Because this isn't the first MSG to have existed in NYC.

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@b_d15

1 month ago

A transit nerd and a die hard Knicks fan, the station needs to come first, point blank. It’s absolutely horrendous that this is the “welcome to New York” that commuters and tourists endure. Aesthetics aside, it’s also just a huge hodgepodge of different agencies running their own little corners without any uniformity. I’ve seen what good public infrastructure looks like in Japan, what we have in the “greatest city in the world” is an absolute joke. We owe it to ourselves as New Yorkers/ NJ to pride in public infrastructure, something that’s already so rare in the rest of the country. My Knicks fan side says MSG is iconic and will always be the Mecca of basketball but it’s also the oldest arena in the NBA and like Yankee and Shea stadium, it’s time to create new memories for the next generation elsewhere. Recreating the iconic atmosphere, down to the lighting and acoustics will be tough but it’s not impossible. Besides, it’s the fans that make MSG electrifying.

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@raymondcastro2613

1 month ago

I learned so much. Thank you. New subscriber.

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@metro-sn

2 weeks ago

Madison Square Garden is legendary its own right, and an iconic part of the city. Its very good for the region as essentially the most public transit-accessible entertainment venue in the entire nation. There is certainly a way that Penn can be made grander while keeping the Garden exactly where it is. I wish you have spoken more about that instead of only the owners threatening to sue.

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@Greco4915

1 month ago

I would like to see a brighter Penn Station, the Moynihan Train Hall is a good step in the right direction. But as you said, more work has to be done.

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@Wewwers

1 month ago

Rebuild (with modern amenities) the old Penn Station headhouse, 100%

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@Rah2005

1 month ago

A small part to correct. Amtrak owns both the East and Hudson River tunnels.

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@pad9x

1 month ago

i really like that idea of totally relocating MSG, and rebuilding Penn Station.

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@ajs11201

1 month ago

At the risk of making this discussion even more complicated-- there is another debacle just a few blocks away, known as the Port Authority Bus Terminal (PABT). It, too, needs an enormous infusion of ideas and money. Perhaps the two projects could be considered in conjunction, with a solution for MSG somewhere near a rebuilt PABT. Just a thought....

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@victorharderson8782

1 month ago

The drone footage was incredible.. almost made it difficult to pay attention to what was being said

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@robertnichols4833

1 month ago

When the two new Hudson tunnels are completed, there will be eight new tracks and their platform added to the south of the current tracks and platforms. The new tracks and platforms will extend all the way to 30th street, so it looks as if there will need to be an above ground station between 30th and 31st Streets.

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@RattledPan

1 month ago

First time visitor here, and I must tell you how delighted to find your channel and content! I love big projects, and it always fascinates me how people must look at change as puzzles to solve. That is...my jam~! Boys never really give up their Tonka trucks; watch 'em if you don't believe me, gaffaw! GREAT information, concisely presented, which is no mean feat, considering this dense, chaotic situation to be able to exhibit without blowing your audience's heads off. NYC is my favorite cities to watch getting things done. For your audiences outside of the US that haven't heard of New York's completely silly ways of trying to give everyone a little sliver of pie, ends up in complete bedlam like out of Terry Gilliam's Brazil. I live in Portland Oregon, the city that rose up when the Federales wanted to put a freeway up that would have destroyed our downtown. Our city, the tri-county council and our unique slow-growth zoning laws has allowed us to have a purpose built city train system. NYC, on the cutting edge of technology, zoned, built a railway system and the city designed with that in mind...over a century ago. The quirks that Manhattanites have grown up in the city to live or work in, must see this as normal. I've got to dive in and look at some of this other interesting titles!

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@renlysotherlover294

1 week ago

The garden has become a modern day land mark that will never be moved.

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