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Top Comments of this video!! :3
I appreciate this conversation. We, as scholars, are here to help the Church.
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I went to college with Mike. Glad to hear his story. There are quite a few of us with various shades of this experience.
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This is an awesome message brother. I feel so much for Michael, and I know how he feels, and more so what he has experienced. I too came out of king James Onlyism, relatively recently, my Bible college and church association was KJO, and I have been rejected and 'preached' against by some of them, ignored by others, politely side lined by most. My decision to 'apostatise' (as I have been told) came after two years of self study and deep thought into the translations of the English Bible (your work helped immensely. A gentleman at my church challenged me to read the ESV and others, and then to tell him why they're corrupt etc. so I did. I started with the usual list of missing verses etc, and even fell over the first one that said, 'they've taken the name of satan out of the Bible!' so much of the party line was just simply not true, or misunderstood! So many of Michaels points I agree with and have used myself, especially the point that they're 're-tranlsating' the KJV themselves when they preach and then explain the Elizabethan words in plain English. Now, at the church I Pastor, we use the ESV, I have managed to transpose? the church from the KJV, not to say that it can't be used, a number of the congregation still do, and the NKJ, NIV, and even the NLT, but the Bibles we've given to all the children, kids, and teens are ESV, for unity in the language (we have a lot of Africans and other nationals who have immigrated here). I preach from the ESV, yet when I say a scripture verse off the top of my head, it's KJV, and I have no problem with that. The fellowship in which my Bible College is, and where I 'belonged' for so many years, 30 or more (wow) was thoroughly KJV, the Church I minister at now is an Old Baptist Union Church, and they are so loving and compassionate, my previous fellowship has basically stonewalled me, yet I still love them. My pastor (KJV) accepts my position, on occasion he has messaged me "Bro I don't get this text, what do you think?' and on two occasions I have simply told him what my Bible said... God bless you all.
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As always great stuff, Mark!
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I can not express how much this means to me. This is the clarity I needed. Praise the good Lord
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I really enjoy the Equipoise podcast. It’s one of my faves.
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Just curious. Did he send his diploma back?
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Brother Mark, another terrific video Sir. I'd like to "usher" you toward Michael J. Vlach and his video "David's Throne and the Coming Reign of Jesus. Very helpful
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Can you please tell me your guests youtube or podcast channel.
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God bless brother. KEEP GOING ON.
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Acts 2:6 — When this sound occurred, a crowd came together and was confused because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
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It's disheartening that being a graduate, they would say to return your diploma for changing your view on Kjv onlyism. Wow
It's like they believe when you get to heaven, God will say, "Well done, my good and faithful believer of the King James Bible, enter in to thy rest"
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I just opened facebook and literally saw this question in a group I'm in called "Jordan Peterson Biblical Studies Discussion Group". They asked "I have a question for those who are devoted to the Word..What translation of the Bible has not been touched, or changed or influenced by the papacy ? The Armenian? The king James? Jewish versions? I would like to find the purest unadulterated version."
Why is this seem like such a burning question for so many people right now? I find it very interesting.
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I really like the spirit of the interview and approach to this topic. I attend a kjvo church even though I prefer modern versions so I understand much of the experiences expressed in this interview.
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This is exactly my story. As I was looking at the attacks and the defenses just no one talked about the KJV the way it was talked about in my upbringing. It wasn't attacked by atheists, nor was it used in serious apologetics. That allowed me to see that there were great godly men alive today who don't use the KJV. It's how I was open to the evidence against my closely held position by men like Mike Winger, James White, and Mark Ward.
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Brilliant discussion!! I too used to think that the KJV was the only trusted word of God in English but through study and research I have also come to the conclusion that God's word is meant to be understood and if a translation is difficult to understand it can lead to frustration or worse it leads to erroneous ideas/understanding about God's message.
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I was sometimes told I wasn't a good Baptist when I left the TR position. I came to the conclusion that IFB King James Only types have abandoned long held Baptist principles, 2 excerpts from Philadephia Confession of Faith proves my point, the first plants the flag of final appeal in matters to the original tongues, the second prpclaims soul liberty, which KJO's must practically deny:
Chapter 1 section 8
The Old Testament in Hebrew (which was the native language of the people of God of old), and the New Testament in Greek (which at the time of the writing of it was most generally known to the nations), being immediately inspired by God, and by his singular care and providence kept pure in all ages, are therefore authentic; so as in all controversies of religion, the church is finally to appeal to them. But because these original tongues are not known to all the people of God, who have a right unto, and interest in the Scriptures, and are commanded in the fear of God to read and search them, therefore they are to be translated into the vulgar language of every nation unto which they come, that the Word of God dwelling plentifully in all, they may worship him in an acceptable manner, and through patience and comfort of the Scriptures may have hope.
Chapter 21 2
2. God alone is Lord of the conscience, and hath left it free from the doctrines and commandments of men which are in any thing contrary to his word, or not contained in it. So that to believe such doctrines, or obey such commands out of conscience, is to betray true liberty of conscience; and the requiring of an implicit faith, an absolute and blind obedience, is to destroy liberty of conscience and reason also.
(James 4:12; Rom. 14:4; Acts 4:19, 29; 1 Cor. 7:23; Matt. 15:9; Col. 2:20, 22, 23; 1 Cor. 3:5; 2 Cor. 1:24)
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I'm reasonably optimistic that KJVOnlyism won't exist (at least in the US) in another 40-50 years. Two reasons: 1) Anecdotally, it seems to me that the leaders of the movement are aging quicker than they are being replaced. 2) the general decline of Christianity in the US is likely to have a long term purging and unifying effect.
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Brother, many of us, when we left the TR position made comments we regret now, as blasphemous of God's Word and inconsistent with Christian live. Thankfully God washes us clean.
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@michaelbritt6936
8 months ago
Mark, thanks for the interview. And I’m so, so, so comforted and blessed to read the positive comments on this video. It’s such a welcome departure from some of the other forums in which I’ve participated. Awesome!
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