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5 Easy Ways To Fix The Brotherhood Of Steel In Fallout 4
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Continuing our 5 easy fixes series, today we're taking a look at some simple ways that bethesda could have made the BoS way better than what we got in the final version.
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@Theegreygaming

9 months ago

just as a bit of context on the George Washington comments... sheesh. I must have really struck a soft spot. 1. yes Washington served in the 7 years war... in fact he sort of started it. 2. he served in a provincial corps, where neither he, nor his men ever received formal military training. in fact most of his men were illiterate peasants who only served 1 year contracts so training would have been an almost fruitless endeavor. 3. He never held rank in the British Military. 4. He served on a single campaign, offering a valuable um... a few weeks of combat experience. 5. He was appointed commander in chief of the continental army, not because of his reputation as a soldier, but because he showed up to meetings dressed as a soldier. the issue here is not whether he never experienced combat, but whether he was ever actually trained as a soldier, served in an actual military force, and had sufficient experience leading troops, which the answer is unequivocally no.

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@samueltitone5683

9 months ago

I feel like the biggest problem with the BoS is that Maxon is a screaming lunatic. Every time I consider a Brotherhood playthrough, I get to the Prydwen and remember, “oh yeah. Maxon is crazy.”

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@windwalker5765

9 months ago

An interesting thing that could be done with Ingram in an Institute playthrough is offer her synth limb transplants. Which also shows a way a reformed Institute could be a boon to the wasteland.

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@scorpionriden2301

9 months ago

The thing about maxson he never experienced what it is like to be a child always with and around adult soldiers. All he heard and spoon fed was he is the one and only true leader. And one more overlooked factor the current maxson is a result of Owen lyons. If remember correctly there is a note from lyons fearing that maxson is gonna become like the ruthless paladin owen once was.

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@EmporerDragon

9 months ago

Thinking on things, they could've had a really good in-game explanation why the BoS are super anti-synth: Imagine that instead of having Sarah Lyons die to a random encounter in the wasteland, she instead dies from a botched Institute attempt to replace her with a Synth. Something like that would really up the hostility between the two factions.

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@christophercorrell4525

9 months ago

All three of the BoS members at the Police Station (Haylen, Rhys, and Danse) should have been available as companions, even if just temporary for the duration of a radiant quest. They could provide commentary on how the Sole Survivor is completing the mission. Haylen would be tied to the haptic drives, Rhys to clearing out a location, and Danse just stays how he is. Since the first two always stay tied to the Police Station, that would make sense. I'd also love to see Rhys get promoted so that he is in charge of the Police Station after Danse returns to the Prydwyn. Give him a second set of quests to accumulate the pieces of his old power armor which are now scattered around the commonwealth, or replacement pieces.

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@Vaultboy-ke2jj

9 months ago

Regarding Kells issuing orders, don’t forget that although he’s a part of the BOS he’s still Maxson’s deputy. Air Marshal Tedder was Eisenhower’s deputy in WW2 and gave orders to ground and naval forces

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@tarkov666

9 months ago

Fact that the BoS felt more like an invasion force is why i enjoyed the minutemen struggle against them

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@AshCreeper

9 months ago

These videos are slowly starting to inspire me to, just for fun, try to rewrite the Fallout 4 storyline.

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@thorsforge2905

9 months ago

In reference to the Squires being on the Prydwn did you forget that Danse "complains" about it and mentions they are there because Maxon thinks they need front line training. So, the whole change of chain of command with Danse being subordinate to Kells is Maxon's doing. It is also Maxon's desire for the Squires to receive the training, which is simply the orders being followed by Kells. Ultimately the enter problems with the Brotherhood of Steel falls firmly on the fact that an untrained boy was given command and his flawed understanding of ideals and how to implement them causes the near entirety of the issues with the Brotherhood of Steel. The biggest thing that was missing from the game was the ability of the player as the only Sentinel to be able to challenge Maxon's rule over the BoS much like you can head canon that the institute can be steered in a better direction once the player is the Director and removes the threats of the zealots of the Railroad and BoS.

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@maestrofeli4259

9 months ago

a weird thing that annoyed me is the cult of following that arthur maxson has

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@sebastjanjapelj9393

9 months ago

Here is an Idea had for a while, that is very similar to your points. The quest "To carry a legacy" would give the player a job to help Maxon with his pressures of being the youngest elder by connecting with the player and outside of the brotherhood. We would learn that he was groomed to be the Elder by the Veterans. But the biggest point of the quest would be is that of new quest paths. Like establishing a beneficial relationship with the Minuteman, a more peaceful approach to the railroad, and an honorable discharge of Paladin Danse. Over all the purpose of the quest would be to flesh out the "Emporer of the Brotherhood" and show his human side. The other quest just came to my mind while watching this video, so they aren't as fleshed out as Maxons. For Ingram we would have: "Step by Step" ->Help her find the schematic, and materials and build her new prosthetics "The Phantom pain" ->Help her slowly adjust to her new limbs Brandis: "Shell Shock"->Help a Veteran with his inner struggles. "The Scarred and the Shiny"->Prepare the volunteers for combat with Brandis Haylen: "A woman of the People"->Assist in her day-to-day tasks "...Those who give reason for hope"->Haylen became the replacement instructor for the squires. Help her with the job

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@AJadedLizard

9 months ago

Honestly I think the biggest issue with Fallout 4 is the same exact issue I have with the secondary story in Skyrim: Bethesda really didn't like the idea of player agency or nuance. The idea behind Fallout 4 with the variability of New Vegas could be a fantastic game.

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@brothers_of_nod

9 months ago

I think I remember that the Prydwen is run on a nuclear reactor from an aircraft carrier, I really didn't like that the brotherhood blew up the institute, they were pretty much the only faction that had the option, the minutemen certainly had to as they couldn't hold it, but the BoS could have taken it for themselves, they traditionally love bunkers. Also I think that the brotherhood does incorporate both Lyons and the West Coast ideals, allowing outsides in with more ease while keeping to the tradition and mission. Likewise as we see with Ryes the brotherhood does hunt down ferals, mutants, other abominations to cleanse the commonwealth, just as Lyons hunted super mutants so they do keep a balance.

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@samueleveleigh2767

9 months ago

Personally i would add in at least some justification for this iteration of the brotherhood being xenophobic to the point of being very similar to the enclave. like i seriously believed that there was going to be a twist that the enclave had done a hydra and infiltrated the brotherhood we see in the commonwealth. but no. we just get the hand wave of "muties are evil because i say so" and the thing is, this is a pretty easy fix since its just back story. lets say maxon didnt fight a deathclaw and win, when the brotherhood were excavating more of the citadel he got trapped in a section full of feral ghouls and fought them off for days until he was rescued. this would give him a very good reason for hating any mutation, because he would have almost outright died from them and had to adopt a mindset of not even seeing them as having a right to live in order for himself to survive. you could also have a decent reason for them hating synths in something similar to diamond city going on. we could have it so that sarah lyons was a synth infiltrator and was discovered after a radiation leak killed her team near instantly but she was left untouched, or that people got suspicious that with no moisturizer available she still didnt age... again this would explain maxon's hatred toward synths because of his pre established crush on her, so when it is revealed that she was a synth it would have warped young maxons mind into seeing the institute both attacking his family, attacking him and stealing his unrequited love. im not saying every atrocity needs a tragic backstory in order to wave the war crime trials but some backstory is still needed

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@danieldragotti2608

9 months ago

Like most of f4 the bos feels incomplete. I really hope we get a solid vision for when ever the next fallout comes out

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@manilajohn0182

9 months ago

Great video! I truly enjoyed it. Lyons had it all over Maxson. I found the disparaging comments by Brotherhood members about Lyons to be just astonishing. It's as though the majority of them were clueless that the Brotherhood lost out big time when Lyons died. Anyway, many thanks for the video!

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@benstajdl3616

8 months ago

I remember seeing something about how there was a scrapped quest with the BHOS that when Maxson orders you to kill Danes that you could actually challenge Maxson and become the commander of The Commonwealth’s BHOS chapter. That would’ve been a great quest to keep

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@thereallochnessmonster9954

9 months ago

13:10 Small correction, George Washington did actually have some military experience serving as a Lieutenant Colonel for the militia in the French Indian War, often having to march with the regular army. He participated in a few battles too such as the end of the ill-fated Braddock expedition. You are 100% right on the second count, he did not have a good win:loss ratio at all.

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@Pepsismokes

9 months ago

Glad I found another fallout YouTuber with interesting content, your quality is great, you definitely deserve more recognition. Would love to see some mod content or even some New Vegas content 👀

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