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POST-HARDCORE IS DEAD? AFI, Thursday, Chiodos, Senses Fail
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What killed post hardcore?? Back in the 2000s, bands like AFI and Thursday went to the top of the charts, with a new crop of post-hardcore bands like Taking Back Sunday, The Used and Underoath and finally Chiodos, Of Mice & Men, Sleeping With Sirens and the rest of their cohort following close behind.

That crop of post-hardcore bands (the "boy bands with breakdowns" bands) crushed it, with several of them going to the Billboard top 10-- and then suddenly they fell off, with their sales and relevance a fraction of what it once was. So what happened??

A few of the things I touch on:

- The OG post-hardcore bands like Quicksand, Dag Nasty, Texas Is The Reason, and Farside

- The "real post-hardcore" bands like AFI, Thursday, and Senses Fail

- The "mall screamo explosion" bands like From First To Last, Underoath, Taking Back Sunday, The Used and Saosin

- The peak of post-hardcore with Of Mice & Men, Sleeping With Sirens, We Came As Romans, The Word Alive and Chiodos

- Why the scene became full of gross, phony people who wanted to be famous and ultimately collapsed on itself

- How its collapse fueled the rise of a new crop of real hardcore bands like Knocked Loose, Code Orange, Turnstile, and Angel Du$t
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@MaouFR

4 years ago

I don't think my love for "boy bands with breakdowns" will ever fade. Say what you want, but there's something about a talented clean vocalist and hardcore vocals together that gets me.

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@krutchrawker

5 years ago

A great topic would be "What killed Warped Tour?"

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@torstenscholz6243

4 years ago

Anyone else here who loves Alexisonfire as much as I do? Talk about an underrated post-hardcore band.

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@calt495

5 years ago

It's hard hearing the music you grew up on called "boy bands with breakdowns," but whats even harder is not being able to disagree with the accuracy of that label. Underoath will still be my favorite band, regardless of if they are a boy band or not.

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@nicholaskreider9728

5 years ago

2001-2004 era should be called "after the drive in"

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@ElveTheRunePure

5 years ago

No mention of Silverstein - quite possibly the most criminally underrated band in the genre - who has been churning out masterpieces consistently throughout different eras. People will remember Smile in Your Sleep, Smashed into Pieces, and My Heroine from the days of Fuse, but their B-sides are, in my opinion, the best B-sides in existence; so much more superior to their hits or any other bands' b-sides. Underoath will always be more popular and you have to admit that TOSC, DTGL, LITSOS are incredible albums, but after that, then what? Silverstein has consistently delivered stunning work every few years to present day and it doesn't get recognized unfortunately. Go see them for their 15 year anniversary tour of When Broken is Easily Fixed!

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@Eyes-Scream0213

1 year ago

I was literally a Nu-Metal kid during the 90's but when 2000's kicks in I was totally blown out by Post Hardcore bands such as Saosin, Silverstein and Alesana. Those 3 bands is what I considered the trinity of Post Hardcore. When I went to college I shifted to metal but still listening to those 3 bands. Now I'm 30 and still wants to hear some good songs from them

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@sanekchatrovich6526

5 years ago

post-hardcore for me are bands like gllassjaw and at the drive in

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@bobby_4505

5 years ago

I never really understood why Taking Back Sunday is so frequently labeled as post-hardcore. I’ve always thought of them as just a pop punk band

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@jameshiggins8601

5 years ago

Post hardcore can't die as long as Dance Gavin Dance is still writing.

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@golions13579

1 year ago

Thursday, Thrice, and Poison the Well were incredible bands throughout their entire careers. Every album by those 3 bands were great. They ended their careers sounding nothing like where they started.. but still amazing. Those were the 3 bands I think stood above the rest.

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@weedjuul6519

5 years ago

During the boyband era I think post-hardcore and metalcore were used interchangeably by a lot a bands. For the same reason you said, breakdowns were the main point of identity

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@JeffFinley

5 years ago

I'd love to hear you talk about how Myspace and introduction of social media influenced the music. It seemed that it added a dash of narcissism, with a focus being on image and building a following. A new band could start up, look the part, and start spamming the friends of similar sounding bands. They could generate a massive following before ever playing a live show. Needing a label to get big was no longer needed because of the new social media "friend count" which paved the way for "followers" and "subscribers" - a new vanity metric thatwould encourage narcissistic behaviors. The iPod and smart phones came out in this time period as well. And the "selfie" became a thing (more focus on image). The whole "scene queen" phenomenon, even fans could have followings. Also, this was the start of a more democratized merchandising industry. The rise of the indie clothing company, sites like Big Cartel, Wordpress made having an online store a lot easier. Vector clip art made designing shirts easier (I was one of the designers who made a lot of money selling it). And some of these bands could be considered indie fashion labels with a soundtrack, rather than a band. All these new digital tools made it so bands could release music digitally and sell merch and get famous without ever having to play a real show or get signed to an actual label.

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@damagecase138

5 years ago

“Verb the Noun” is what I always refer to those bands as

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@genequist3859

4 years ago

It was the era of “Let’s name our bands after books you have to read in high school.”

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@Pantallica5FDP

5 years ago

If no one has heard of Funeral for a Friend check them out, listen to Juneau and Roses for the dead. First two albums are amazing

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@xcalibrx1653

5 years ago

I always feel like post hardcore just hybridized with metalcore sometime during the late 2000’s/early 2010’s.

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@AreeyaKKC

5 years ago

I grew up in this era. Thursday, Thrice, Coheed, Senses Fail, roses are red, silverstein, blood brothers, across five aprils....etc. When Hot Topic was cool and SmartPunk was the place to get new CDs. Thanks for the memories.

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@thegreaterg8r148

5 years ago

Heroin is really popular at my school. I saw a kid passed out he liked them so much. Oh the band? They never heard of it

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