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Keeping the ambiguous treaty is the lifeline to a lot of politicians and other people that make a living about it. They don't have an interest in fixing anything but to extend the problem for as long as possible.
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Is the treaty a contract? If so it is signed by equal parties. Treaties allow for reciprocal rights & obligations.
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So, if as Rahuii Papa says.. to allow Māori their rights as defined in his vision of ToW, “ Māori then can have a quasi government “… who pays for that? Who pays for all of these governing people specifically for Māori?Who pays the taxes to enable work and services to be given to and for Māori? …
with his separatist ideals of the ToW, it should be paid by Māori? … iwi?…..
Does Rāhui expect (separatist) pakeha to pay for these services also.?
Perhaps his thoughts are in keeping with the continual costs incurred by all kiwis (including pakeha) to pay for ongoing treaty settlements whose financial settlements are then handed out to iwi only.
When and where will it stop? … can we have some common sense/pragmatic approach to allow all Kiwi to move on to a better future as one people?
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This is the first article by TVNZ that has been close to calling it what it is, "Redefining the Treaty Principles", instead of multiple misleading variations of "Changing the Treaty". But to be fair, the principles were never defined in the first place, not by anyone with mandate to do it in any case
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Television, one at the forefront of opposing the coalition government, and every way they can possibly do so with amazing amount of disinformation, soundbites et cetera et cetera
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If Treaty of Waitangi was scrapped we wouldnt have all this divisive arguing. The arguing will still be going on 100 years from now.
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My wife is maori 54 years old she don't smoke she don't drink she eats healthy she never had her hand out and she's doing fine did I mention both of us worked paid taxes raised three children didn't need a treaty but we are both sick to death of hearing about it sooner the treaty gets sherreded the better off maori will be
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What I don’t get is the hype about this? What’s wrong with going through the process. Who’s to say that the principles act proposes are actually what goes through to the final product. Be part of the conversation, part of any solution. Some media outlets and people seem to be demonising open debate
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Rahui is protecting the gravy train. Scrap the Waitangi Tribunal, scrap the special seats, scrap the special treatment.
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In 1835 Maori were declared a sovereign nation under He Whakaputanga which was recognized by another sovereign nation the United Kingdom. Maori as the sovereigns of Aotearoa entered into a partnership with the British Crown via the signing of Te Tiriti o Waitangi in 1840 bringing about a new beginning for both Maori, the Crown and Non-Maori (British Subjects) currently living in Aotearoa at that time.
This is the distinction between Maori and Non-Maori living in NZ. Non-Maori citizens living in New Zealand are not Treaty Partners, they are beneficiaries of the Te Tiriti because their Sovereign formed a relationship with Maori. This is facts but it does not mean that Maori are not inclusive, this does not mean that Maori want apartheid between Maori, the Crown and Non-Maori residents and citizens living in Aotearoa/New Zealand both past and present.
So to look at Maori in the same light as you would a Non-Maori citizen is incorrect. The correct way of looking at things and the structure of New Zealand is and should be the following...
There are two authorities and two powers in Aotearoa / New Zealand...
1. Maori
Under Maori you have all Maori descendants who are beneficiaries of He Whakaputanga and Te Tiriti o Waitangi and Non-Maori descendants who reside here in Aotearoa under Maori Sovereignty who have come into Aotearoa through Maori.
This does not apply to Non-Maori residents who have come into Aotearoa by way of the Crown.
The reason why this is not visibly seen is because Maori are yet to establish a Whare o Nga Rangatiratanga o Aotearoa (Maori Parliament) and suffered colonization and assimilation by the Crown representatives for the last 184 years and continuing.
2. The Crown
Under the crown you have British subjects and Non-British subjects which includes all Non-Maori and Non-British citizens that resides in New Zealand who have come into New Zealand by way of the Crown.
The governing stewards of the Crown have spent the last 184 years strengthening their hold of the country by way of deceit, fearmongering and establishing a narrative that Maori are ugly, despicable, criminals, violent, thieves, supporters of apartheid, lack the capability of governing and managing affairs and that Maori just wants to take from everyone for their own self benefit.
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The inconvenient truths of history facing the ahistorical radicals - some powerful chiefs refused to sign the treaty as they understood what it meant [contra the new-fangled interpretation]. Most Maori [kopapa] fought on the side of the British to enforce British/ NZ sovereignty against the central North Island tribes that had not signed the treaty, and rejected British authority/ law and order.
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Ngai Tahu, Tainui and Ngati Whatua are becoming very sophisticated in business and political issues. It's a real shame that Nga Puhi has been left behind. As there Iwi leaders are not moving forward in the Settlement and allowing their children to become prosperous and educated like other Iwi have done.
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Ngapuhi ❤
Ngati Porou
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The Treaty of Waitangi 1840 (TOW) is an amendment to Declaration of Independence 1835 (DOI), In 1840 Nga Rangatira prior to the signing of the TOW exercising their powers under Article 2 of the DOI, in Article 2 of the TOW they gave Queen the pre-emptive right or first right to purchase Māori land or first right of refusal. Māori have not done that to date, nor the Queen purchased any Māori land so, it's still Māori Customary Land
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let Democratic process prevail,all the ones worried are the ones with there snouts in the trough like this chap
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Im maori im sick of hearing treaty this treaty that, maoridom should focus on why maori have high rates of imprisonment,health,education problems,crime and most of all poverty sort our own shit out first before getting on our bloody high horse
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I hear the word, it’s well established. Sorry it’s not well established. The majority of New Zealand is want change and I’m not prepared to let the established group take over our society.
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‼️‼️Maori had no problem with the creation of principles created in 1989 by labour and jeffery palmer as it beneffited them, even though it does not translate what the treaty ACTUALLY says. Seymours interpretation makes total sense with what the treaty ACTUALLY says, stating that ALL kiwis must be treated equally Seymour is 100% right any person that actually reads the treaty will see that 1000% ‼️‼️
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We are all human
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@sonjasmith3414
2 months ago
Why is the smacking of maori children in the schools blamed on whitey? It was the teachers that were teaching the children in maori. When the maori found that the children were not being taught in English, they went mad and demanded that the children wre taught in English. Time some people learnt the real history. The treaty only treats maori as a collective for signing purposes, they then as British subjects are treated as individual citizens with all the individual rights and duties. This is where the academics have screwed up, treating people as a group instead of individuals. It does not work ever.
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