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All I see with people that name themselves as 'goth' are people that try far to hard to fit in with the sub-culture. If you go back to the 80's, goths weren't actually so over the top, I mean look at Robert Smith, his image was and is still nothing like what people might class as goth. My mum is 49 and she says that back in the days when her and my dad and their friends were classed as 'goths', a goth was basically any person who wore darker clothes and listened to goth/post-punk bands. Basically what I'm saying is that nowadays I think goth is overdramatised, most people I know who are starting out in the sub-culture (early to late teens) try far far far too hard and are constantly almost trying to prove that they're goth when the sub-culture is based off of music and the clothing and style is just a separate component of that. That's just my opinion anyway, I mean no offence to anyone :)
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I hate when musicians get offended by being described as goth. Goth... really is just a word to describe something dark. Like a book about murder in the dreary depressing Victorian times gets called a gothic novel. A building that is creepy looking is described as being gothic. In a way, goth is just another word for dark and there is nothing wrong with that. They probably deny being goth out of modesty. They dont wanna act like they are a part of some sort of fad or group.
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Iām a man whoās 44 years old. Iāve seen the development and changes in the scene. Yes, it all started with Punk, thereās no doubt about that! But Punk was socially and politically related and was all based on anarchy. The most bands in the beginning brought aggressive and rebellious music. They were almost against everything in this world, couldnāt stand each other and brought chaos. The next episode, which is more the foundation of now days Gothic music, where very dark but at the same time more realistic and stood with theyāre both feet on the ground. There were still some sparks of rebellion, anti-commercial and a bit anti-politic parts left in the music but with a complete different view and expression. More and more bands made music about social conflicts and actual problems (like, for example the cold war and the upcoming atomic energy and weapons). But, even the music was dark and for many people depressive and negative, the only statement was to confront the world with the reality in the eightyās. On the other hand, aggression disappeared in the music, between the bands and also the fans of this culture. This culture had different names all over the world, from post-punk, new wave, dark wave and also for the first time, some bands used the name Gothic! I donāt want to upset anyone, but you could called it also soft-punk for hippies. Sorry for my words but I use these terms, trying to explain the difference. The music made statements about what was going on in the world but in a more āmatureā way without any form of aggression. The first Goths where born! And I remember them as a non violent, respectful, peaceful but well informed kind of people. Freedom of speech, respect for expression and respect for each otherās choice of preferred bands and music. Respect for expression was also for the way they represented themselves , with make-up, without make-up, hairstyle and clothingās. One thing we shared was our favorite color, namely black (sometimes combined with a touch of another color). And, actually, since then, not much is changed! Of course there are a lot off new bands, each with their own sound. But the basics are still very much comparable with what Iāve seen through the years. I myself never used make-up, I do restyle my hair when I go to a party and Iām still dressed in black. I donāt follow the mainstream basics like fashion, hairstyles, home decoration, or whatever you see in popular magazines, the internet and television commercials. I do speak about my interpretation of all dayās things, but if I see and hear otherās donāt agree with me and find my way of thinking and living as not social, mainstream, crazy, weird or whatever, I remain silent. Iām will never fight against others opinions but if it those not fit in my life, I will not follow. And if they blame me for that, then they have a problem, not me, because I donāt care. Manly all Gothās I know have an equal point of view and act more or less the same way. And in my opinion, thatās what being a Goth stands for. Fact is that younger Gothās more often dress up and use make-up the way we know it. And I have only respect for them! Itās beautiful and sometimes I also wear clothes or accessories from the Gothic store. And I try also, from time to time, the more impressive pieces but if they donāt fit me, I donāt buy them. And after all, Iām respected by other Gothās, even the āreal dressed upā! And that is why this culture is so beautiful too me since years! I probably am and shall die like a true Goth! Itās in my heart and veins! Sorry for the errors Iāve made in this text. Iām from Belgium and only trying to do my best in English. Make love, enjoy the darkness and live your own life! Greetings! Unidentif (aka Don D. Nivaro) X
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I have always loved alot of the subculture and really got into it quite a bit when I was younger. But the music was always a bit of an issue for me since that seems to be where the biggest snobs and elitists are. I mean don't get me wrong I like Joy Division but can we quite badmouthing anything that is is not 40 years old? I mean my musical taste has largely moved on to stuff like symphonic metal with very dark and decidedly gothic style but many self described goths (particularly of my generation) look down on it because it does not sound like something popular and relevant 4 decades ago. Sad to say but if a subculture identifies strongly to it's music if it wants to stay relevant so does the music.
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My approach to the music is similar. Genres I'd recommend to anyone who's curious: gothic rock and darkwave. Starter bands that are post-punk and alternative rock who can introduce the sounds: Siouxsie and the Banshees,Ā Joy Division, Bauhaus andĀ the Cure. Then there's gothic metal and deathrock.
Fashion faves: traditional, Victorian.
Excellent authors and films that you chose.
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@dewchamp5716
7 years ago
I never realised I could identify as goth. I always felt like one, but the fashion aspect seemed so inseparable, and I was never into that expressive, extremely black & white look, it seemed too much. Moreover, I could never afford it. But I felt SO many amazing things, when I started listening to Depeche Mode! I suddenly realised I could create my own image, that would make me feel like me. It was a HUGE step. And it didn't even matter that I don't have the money to dress myself differently, the new music I found was everything, it fulfilled me. I've found lots of bands since then, and it's really mostly darker stuff, since I've always been drawn to darker stuff. I've never had a proper name to it, to this habit, preference of mine. Now it's clear as day, that I've been goth all this time. :)
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