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I have a contribution from the great @songweretson1513 whose channel can be found here. She also did a fascinating video on Iconography vs Storytelling that gave me several Eureka Moments when drafting the script for this one. Do check it out:
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SAY THE CORSET THING FOR THOSE IN THE BACK
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Gotta notice and appreciate the Charmed reference you snuck in there. 😉🧙♀
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Thank you for vocalizing issues I had a hard time putting my finger on but bothered me. And off topic, I wish they'd remake 500 Days of Summer from Summer's POV but have no confidence they'll get the nuances right.
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Until you explained why regina becoming Queen of the land at the end was off. I couldn't vocalise why that ending for her in OUAT didn't feel happily ever after for her.😮
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The 1994 Adaptation is more subtly feminist than the In-your-face Feminist messages of the 2019 Adaptation! At one point Meg says she enjoyed being admired. Marmee replies "Of course not, but if you find your value lies in being merely decorative, I fear that one, that's all you think you are." Louder for the Gretas in the back! Then Jo says "women should vote because they are citizens too!" Take that, Greta Gerwig!
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Barbie (2023) did manage to make me tear up during the montage scenes of our title character experiencing human emotion, both in the park and with Ruth, as it made me nostalgic towards the pure joy of my being a 2000's Barbie lover growing up, and the fact that I can still have appreciation for my childhood loves as an adult. And I did like Little Women (2019), though admittedly, what I most remember from it nowadays is Florence Pugh's performance as Amy. Plus, I'd already watched the "female writer mc struggles to have her work respected and published by men" bit in Crimson Peak (2015), and personally, I think I liked it better in that film; probably because it doesn't quite so demand itself to be noticed by the audience (at least in my view), it was simply a part of the story. So, although I like these two films, they don't necessarily make me worship the ground that Greta Gerwig walks on, and it's nice to hear you rationally dissect your mixed feelings towards her work in a rational manner, unlike so many "FEMINISM IS BAD AND STUPID," de-criers who just want the attention. 😌👏
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Thank you!!!! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out why Barbie had this "almost there" or rather a "not quite there" feel to it. You spelled it out PERFECTLY.
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I had heard of Little Women growing up but had only listened to an abridged version once as a kid. So the 2019 version is the one I saw first. I do like that version but there are some things that are definitely off. For one thing Amy's film relationship with Lourie is reduced to her scolding him though most of the film. As you said her speech about womanhood isn't something she should need to explain because they both live in and understand that culture. She says it for the audience's benefit. Also Gerwig removes her one genuinely compassionate scene where she sympathizes and shows her care for Lourie by having her know about Jo's refusal of him at the beginning. I do like Ronan as Jo but after having seen the 1994 film I prefer Wynona Ryder. I do own both versions.
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Another insightful video essay. Thanks Bob. Your perspective is informed as always. I enjoyed all of Gerwig’s movies but you make salient points.
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I think Barbie doesn't lend itself well to being a movie due to the lack of a storyline for the toys themselves. If you take a property like Transformers for instance, that has the basic storyline of good robots vs bad robots, and while it's basic as I mentioned, it can still be used as a foundation for a film's story. With Barbie, the only way they could get it to feasibly work was by having her still be a toy in her movie and having her discover humanity and emotions and what not, which is a story we've seen time and again. It makes it a bit uninspired imo.
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your channel is so refreshing and i hope it takes off because i’m tired of the loudest voices on this platform being garbage like the critical drinker
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3:29 there is also a Venezuelan Telenovela adaptation of Little Women set during the war for independence.
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THANK YOU FOR THE SASHA CALLOUT.
I HATED that the movie just let her get away with being so vicious to a clearly clueless stranger without ever being called on it or humbled.
The movie just let it slide like she was in the right or some kind of righteous young"truth-teller", when really she was just using pseudo-social justice buzzwords as a cover to bully someone who is NOT the source of the problem, to try and look cool in front of her friends.
It actually feeds into some of the worst stereotypes about teenagers and about people who legitimately try to call out societal problems in a constructive way. It struck me as a boomer's idea of what a "woke" young person is like. I really hated it.
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I'd like to defend the 2019 Little Women movie just a bit.
I get the criticism that the movie doesn't develop Prof. Bhaer and makes his attraction for Jo seem to just be that he's hot. But to be fair, the movie has a lot of characters to develop and only two hours and a bit to develop them all. Considering that, I think it's awesome how complete most of their arcs feel, especially compared to most adaptations which only develop Jo, Laurie, Beth and the professor.
Jo does suffer a little bit for her temper tantrum in response to Prof. Bhaer's feedback. When her mother advises her to go back to New York, she says glumly that she ruined her friendship with him. (Or was that just in the script and got cut from the final movie?) I agree though that it would have made for a better character arc to have her apologize to him.
A big part of the reason so many readers have preferred the idea of a Jo-Laurie romance or even the Jo-Bhaer romance to the Amy-Laurie romance is because of the lack of conflict in the last one, so I can't blame the movie for wanting to add more drama to it. (It is rather eyebrow raising though one of the reasons given for why Jo and Laurie wouldn't work as a couple is that they fight too much when Amy and Laurie seem just as combative.)
Also, the book Little Women is full of speechifying and moralizing albeit less about feminism per se and more about morality in general, so I feel like that's what people expect, even want from an adaptation.
I do agree though that the movie really oversimplifies the story behind the book's creation and publication, mainly the part about Louisa May Alcott not wanting to write it, for the sake of social commentary and the ending, while it seems clever at first, is ultimately frustrating. And, yeah, more historically accurate costumes and hairdos would have been welcome.
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Narnia series was one of my favorite books growing up!
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Quite the poignant analysis and I mostly quite agree with you, except for some details, which might be small, but I like noticing small gems. 😊 I also love learning about film history and to see you debunk so many arguments that seem to be so prevalent in Online spaces. Especially when you spoke about mean girls being the ideal today. I could only happily agree. 🎉🎉
We might not be quite alike, as learned to dislike the clear-cut black-and-white morality in stories, which is why I HATE stories like ‘Morality Bites’ in Charmed, but I can’t deny that I also learned much from you…
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I think my problem is that she rips compassion out of her females. The Charmed women transformed their world by compassion. So women can be just as self centered as the males Gerwig hates and speaks against.
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“It’s a well-written Instagram post.” Dude. Yes. Nailed it. I loved the humor of the movie, but otherwise, didn’t enjoy it primarily for the heavy-handedness, the narration and exposition. I’m glad I saw it, but I wouldn’t watch it again.
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I miss read the title as "cinematic crushes"😅
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@RedLianaK
2 weeks ago
This was fantastic and I say this as someone who saw Barbie twice in theaters. Thank you for reminding us all that women don't have to settle for mean girl misery because it's been normalized!
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