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Nightstar and Regional Eurostar - The Stars That Didn't Shine
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While Eurostar is today one of the main cross-channel options for those wishing to travel between Britain and Europe, during its early years the company was mired in controversial underperformance and an inability to meet profit margins due to various factors related to government hesitance in providing the necessary infrastructure to make it competitive.

As an eternal testament to this, two of the more ambitious proposals for the Eurostar company, came about with the Nightstar and Regional Eurostar concepts, two services that were intended to bring Eurostar to the further reaches of the British population beyond London, but in both cases failed due to a lack of investment by the state that saw them collapse before they even began.

Special thanks to Photo 57601 for allowing me the use of their footage, it is greatly appreciated. Be sure to check out their channels for more exceptional content of these trains in action.

Chapters:

0:00 - Preamble
1:09 - Immediate Obstacles
4:56 - Regional Eurostar
7:17 - Nightstar
10:12 - Building the Fleet
13:02 - Lacking a Business Case
15:37 - The Beginning and The End
18:16 - Breaking Up
22:25 - Could It Have Worked?
24:53 - Conclusion

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@Deepthought-42

4 months ago

The lack of development of British high speed rail transport infrastructure and its links with continental Europe has many parallels with the demise of the British car industry.

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@chron123

4 months ago

The utter irony and shame that Britain, being literally the birthplace of trains, has screwed itself over rail development

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@user-sd3ik9rt6d

4 months ago

Never underestimate the ability for the UK government to half ass the rail industry to suit party politics.

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@stewartellinson8846

4 months ago

"Largely cut off" The ongoing tragedy of British railway development in the late 20th & 21st centuries continues. We're destined to keep creating half-finished pieces of line which don't create a meaningful system, leaving critics to shout "it's not profitable - we should cut it"

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@SirKenchalot

4 months ago

Don't forget Stratford International, the ironically named station since it has never had an international service stop there and was built to allow services to stop in London on their way to other destinations in the UK. As far as holes in the ground go, it's one of my favs but worth £200million; probably not.

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@tomwatts703

4 months ago

It genuinely makes me angry to see how the potential of a direct rail link to continental Europe has been squandered over the past few decades, it could be an incredible asset for transport decarbonisation but even after 30 years it seems like nobody's learned anything, especially given the the lack of connection between HS1 and HS2.

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@pedward1313

4 months ago

A brilliant illustration of how successive British governments have been pathetic, shortsighted and inept (and corrupt) in their continuing failure to deliver an integrated public transport network for its citizens, visitors and businesses, and to miss just about every economic opportunity this should have brought to the nation. The Victorians would wet themselves laughing at how useless this country has become since their heroic efforts.

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@nekomasteryoutube3232

4 months ago

At least the Nightstar rail cars made by Metro-Cammel didn't go to waste, they ended up over here in Canada as the VIA Rail Renaissance cars which are still in use today. I bet the engineers of the Nightstar cars never thought they'd be getting pulled around by EMD F40PH and GE P42 locomotives in Canada.

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@malcolmgibson6288

4 months ago

Britain screw up public transport at every opportunity. 😌

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@speedmachine69

4 months ago

Britains current transport links and relations with our European neighbours have taken decades of work to get to this position.What a triumph......

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@shahedmc9656

4 months ago

I used to see these Regional Eurostars in 2002/03 between Wakefield Westgate and Leeds bearing the GNER and Eurostar liveries. Great work Ruairidh MacVeigh in providing a summary of what went wrong in the British railways industry since the 90s.

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@richardmccarthy9580

4 months ago

Really interesting….and relevant for me. Was on Bromley South station when last Night Ferry service passed by…..was also at Bromley when Eurostar services trundled their way through before HS1 line commissioned. Now in Manchester and part of team upgrading what is still known as MID (Manchester International Depot)

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@SamiltonAdventures

4 months ago

I remember seeing the GNER sets, in the mid-to-late 2000s. Even rode in one on the short hop between Leeds and Wakefield. They were smooth, riders, and gave a feeling of a less constricted passenger cabin.

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@Mike-kc8rl

4 months ago

Very interesting presentation! I've been a lifelong train buff, but to be honest, I never really have followed the eurostar evolution! I'm, however, not surprised to see its another good old British cock up?

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@YukariAkiyamaTanks

4 months ago

I always liked when the Eurostars ran out of waterloo. I found it neat to watch these long trains snake out of london.

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@BassandoForte

4 months ago

Class 37 on a sleeper..?? No ones getting any kip then... 🤣 A very informative yet somewhat depressing video highlighting how badly mismanaged the UK is over rail.. 😥 We're supposed to have invested the dam things too...

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@yvonnefarrell1029

4 months ago

The inconvenience of getting to and from airports, the traffic jams, etc, sometimes creates so much headache that train service would be preferable. What a story. As always, thanks.

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@fuzzynutter8344

4 months ago

In a roundabout way, regional Eurostar now kind of exists, on mainland Europe at least, due to the merger of Eurostar and Thalys. All Thalys services are now branded Eurostar.

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@johndaniels4623

4 months ago

As an American, I only heard of the EuroStar from Top Gear when it was featured in a race from south of France to London against the new Bugatti Veyron. One thing I will say I love about the original Eurostar sets is the sound they make flying by. The whir-whir-whir-whirr to me just sounds so cool.

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@Josephsamuelinniss

4 months ago

Excellent summary of quite a frustrating state of affairs. The thing that gets me is all the engineering and socioeconomics works - the only reason high speed rail in the UK is struggling is a lack of industry coordination and a total absence of political leadership. This should really be an open goal to massively improve connectivity (with huge economic benefit across the UK) whilst reducing environmental impact of transport (in the context of the ongoing climate emergency).

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