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Iron Manāthe movie, and character, that started it all. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is massive. But what if I told you that Iron Man and Tony Stark were so unknown by most mainstream audiences that they had to make animated Iron Man advertorial films ahead of release to show kids he wasn't just a robot? That he was as cool as Spider-Man or The Hulk. What if I told you that Stan Lee created Iron Man knowing full well that the character was an inherently unlikeable person, daring himself to make audiences like him anyway? And how on earth did the MCU, and Robert Downey Jr. for that matter, manage to keep Tony Stark and Iron man interesting over the course of an entire decade? Well... let's talk about it.
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I kinda liked when the MCU was smaller something about it feels more natural.
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That ending to Iron Man 1 was such a trip. It leaves you positively buzzing after itās over.
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Spider-Man Far From Home had the most amazing line about Stark, spoken by Happy. āNobody can live up to Tony, not even Tonyā. It fits in all directions. He couldnāt be the playboy, the arms manufacturer, or the hero, that everyone else thought he was. He was trapped in the middle of himself, while everyone was convinced he was only one thing or another.
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I think my favourite Tony Stark moment (or maybe segment?) is his time with Yinsen in the cave. I got the feeling Yinsen was the first friend he'd made in a very long time, and the climax of that segment was all the more stronger for it.
But perhaps the most badass moment would be the iconic shot of him firing the tiny rocket at the tank, and walking away from the explosion. 13 year old me certainly enjoyed that back then, and it still makes me grin with joy to this day when I see it.
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I think this is what the current phase of Marvel is missing out : letting their characters be flawed. Nowadays the characters seem to already be a perfect hero who are op and can do no wrong. If Marvel can look back at what makes their older movies so successful maybe there's still hope for the next phase
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I think one of the main things that makes Tony likable is that he improves on his faults, and kept doing that as the MCU progressed and his battles got harder. In other words, because Tony learns from his mistakes.
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The fact that I misread the title as "when the filmakers get stuck with an unkillable character" and realized it only halfway it's a testament to how interesting and well done this video is that can make me forget I was "promised" a compleatly different topic.
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I love how you used mostly older, grounded clips of Tony, and only showed the snap, what we were all thinking of, at the end. Beautifully edited.
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i like how iron man and captain americas arcs are mirror opposites. stark starts out as a narcissist who selflessly redeems himself through sacrifice in the end. Cap starts out already a selfless virtuous team player but finally allows himself to do something for himself by going back in time and living his best life with Peggy. It's great to see those two arcs and characters interact, driving a lot of the tension and drama when they clash in the mcu movies.
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4:42 "A protagonist should surprise us. The greater the dichotomy between true character and perceived characterization, the more captivating our hero becomes."
Love this. It seems like some writers think that if they simply catch an audience off guard with a characters decision that it will captivate them, but it usually feels cheap. The better they set up the dichotomy, the more profound and emotional it feels when a character makes a pivotal decision in their arc. I think a good actor who can show that internal conflict helps a lot too with the execution.
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I think Tony Starks' insistence on preserving the time-line in which his daughter existed was an incredible show of growth for the character. You can feel his love for his daughter and, for probably the first time, believe he cares for someone else more than himself.
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We USED to have a chance to get to know and care about these characters. Their arc mattered to us. Now every 3 months thereās 5 new characters that are connected to such-and-such and weāre all looking for hints while feeling lost if we didnāt give hours to watching this other show. Iāve given up. Iāll read an article every now and again and I hope they do well, but hyping up some stuff 3 years from now involving a cameo character from 3 years ago..I just canāt. Too much is too much.
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This was a very well done summarisation that covered some points I have never heard mentioned before about not just Tony but story craft itself. Thank you, this was most enlightening!
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Just my 2 cents: I think the reason Tony was so likeable was because us, as humans, are also inherently full of contradictions. Seeing Tony's journey in overcoming these contradictions give us a glimpse into our own uncertain future, and how one day we will also be able to reconcile those differences between ourselves.
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I once saw someone describe civil war like this: "It's about two supernaturally enhanced war machines (cpt america and bucky) beating up and fighting an orphan because one of them killed said orphan's parents" and this is literally so accurate and funny, I think about it all the time.
Literally so out of context but thought I'd share it
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We like Tony Stark by Robert Downey because it was a character from a different time, with a different storytelling strategy. A time when heroes suffered consequences of their own actions, and we can relate to that. What really made him special is that he learnt from his mistakes between other things:
He chose to sold weapons because it was part of his father bussiness -> traumatic kidnapping experience + core reactor in his chest to live. Ironman 1
Tried to leave his past behind -> antagonist and villains tried to kill him because of the actions he already did. Ironman 1, 2, and 3.
Tried to shield and protect the world -> Civil war and Ultron happened.
Tried to leave everything behind, starting a family -> Infinity War, Endgame happened
Despite of his wealth and intelligence, he still had problems in which he struggled and there were a lot of people that was hurt because of him, and it is this journey that made him compelling, we are shown that he is not a bad person (although we are shown the consequences of his decisions aswell), but he is someone that made mistakes/bad decisions and most often than not tried to make amends even if it all blowed in his face, and we can relate to that. This was Marvel at its peak
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One of my favorite lines is "SHIT!"
But also, when he's speaking to Peter Parker: "And I wanted you to be better." Hits me every time.
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I think what really made the character work is that, not only was his 'character' unlikable, but the actor had his known flaws as well; Downey was relatable. Not like every other hollywood star that everyone thought was perfect. Real synergy between Iron Man & Downey, that is hard to come by.
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His consistent restlessness across multiple films was my favorite angle for his character. Whether showcased by his insomnia in Iron Man 3 and obsessive suit-building or refusing to help in Endgame only to solve time-travel on a whim because he could, I saw it as another character defect that could cause as many problems as it solved. What's funny is the comics never portrayed him nearly as effectively as the films did; as a result, his comics have gotten progressively better since the birth of the MCU.
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Your favorite Tony Stark line or moment in the MCU?
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