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Why Rick Beato is Wrong About Perfect Pitch
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A scientist's response to Rick Beato's video "Why Adults Can't Develop Perfect Pitch."

I am a professional Jazz Musician, a Lecturer at Middlesex University, an Associate of the Royal Academy of Music, and a Music Psychology PhD student at the University of Cambridge (where I am studying Absolute (i.e., 'Perfect') Pitch).

No animosity is intended towards Rick Beato in creating this video. Its function is to add something useful to the public understanding of Absolute Pitch (which is the topic of my PhD).

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• I'm aware I pronounce 'Wernicke's area' strangely
• The Bachem statistic is actually from 1955, not 1954 (as I say in the video)

UPDATE the Absolute Pitch training experiment is now closed. The data analysis is well underway, so more with you asap! :)

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@martinpaddle

3 years ago

I still like playing Jazz to my kids. While I I don't have the illusion that it will give them perfect pitch, they learn to appreciate music

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@samanthasivertsen7872

2 years ago

Hi Sam, thanks for posting this video! I am a Master's Music Therapy student and I am writing a research paper on Absolute Pitch. I also obtain this ability and I appreciate your insight on Beato's video. Thanks!

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@user-ui2mk2no1f

6 months ago

You got it when you said "the brain seems to be pretty damn plastic". I have trained myself to recognize A, with" Crystal Silence" by the late great Chick Correa, one of the most beautiful compositions ever made. As an Idealist, I hold the position that the brain is related to consciousness ,but, consciousness doesn't emerge from the brain, because then you get the hard problem of consciousness.

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@almirojorge4593

3 years ago

A very informative video by someone that knows his trait very well. Congrats. The first time that I realised that my 2 year old daughter had perfect pitch was when the train went by and sounded its horn, to which she said, A-sharp. We had been showing her video clips of the music notes with a colour and the letter associated with it. We played this near on every day for the first 2 years of her life, sans the first 3 months or so. She now knows all the piano notes, and the few piano chords that I know how to play. My point is that I worked through the programme with her, well mostly, as during half of the days that she would have done the studies I'd be at work. I was not able to learn perfect pitch as she has and my relative pitch obviously needs a point of reference (this I usually get from her😄). Either way, my 4 month old has now started on the videos and I'm sure that you will agree that she will soon have PP! Will be trying your link if it is still available. All the best!

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@TheStudioDrummer

2 years ago

This topic fascinates me and it is great to hear a well researched presentation on it. Thank you.

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@tomaco7310

3 years ago

This is really interesting. This is even more confusing than I thought 45 min ago. Fantastic. Do you have the sources for all of the studies and such you mention throughout? I'd love to read even more deeply into all these things you discussed!

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@marcaventtchona7184

2 years ago

@Sam Leak How useful do you find your HTM/AP in terms of music production/ music improvisation or anything relating to the music experience?

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@operatic9537

3 years ago

Hi Sam. Excellent video. I have perfect pitch myself and many of the things you mention ring true, especially your pondering at the end about how having perfect pitch makes it harder to suss out the notes in a chord. I can identify simple chords just fine and some extended chords by their general quality as well as a few others just in isolation but once you get into complex voicings and inversions it's a different story. I don't even really hear the individual notes a lot of the time, the "tone colours" many describe blend together to create essentially a new colour so that, just like you can't pick red and yellow out of orange, I can't pick the notes out of those blended chords. With practice maybe but that's not been a priority in recent years.

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@nickytaylor4123

1 year ago

Adam Neely also covered this subject in a video. He begins by asserting that he is playing the note D on a portable keyboard. Instantly, I said, while watching this, that's Eb. Now I don't have perfect pitch. I'm a self-taught guitar player who also can play chords on a piano. But certain notes stand out for me due to a vowel sound that they seem to embody. Eb, for instance, has a wah sound. Imagine my satisfiction when, in the comments section, a whole host of people with actual perfect pitch started saying that the note was Eb. Later, Adam admitted that he had recalibrated the keyboard to what on the guitar would be known as Hendrix tuning ie - half a step down. He did this to confuse people visually so they couldn't guess the note by looking. Maybe this vowel sound association is worth exploring for this reason. I continue to practice tone recognition in this way myself, with good results. I thought I'd share this story as it may be of interest in your field of study..

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@mayiask654

3 years ago

i like the idea of becoming a better piano player by developing a good pitch recognition through ear training. So actually i am in the process of evaluating which RELATIVE pitch learning/ear training method could suit my personal preferences and needs best. Now, after having noticed your experiment i'm confused if i should put my efforts into gaining absolute pitch by participating your experiment or if i should rather stick with my original plans for gaining relative pitch. Will gaining (or at least trying to gain) absolute pitch have any advantage over learning relative pitch in regards of becoming a better instrumentalist (or musician in general)? Thanks in advance

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@user-vl8cd2yn5d

11 months ago

I applaud you for approaching this fascinating subject with not only well researched references but also with an open mind and scientific skepticism. Thank you for this in depth discussion. 👍🏼👏🏻

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@farquoi

2 years ago

Smart. Lots of research went into this. I'm not entirely sure that Beato disgrees with you as much as you do, especially around the bit where he says that if perfect pitch could be learned, it would be taught already.

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@GrahamYoung

3 years ago

Fine work Sam, nice to see a relatively thorough exploration of this and the surrounding literature. Subscribed dude!

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@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole

2 years ago

Let it be known that this is EXACTLY as i hear it. Counting to 12, we are going up the 12 chromatic notes, starting with C-note. C is robust, hot and weighty. C# is the same, but more movement and drive. More push. D is sounds like something unstable, but also very grounded and human. E-flat-is kind of the same but it becomes instantly more bright and clear. E-natural (E note) is like that light or illumination is now spreading itself out more. F becomes more open. Almost as if that energy is moving away/traveling. F# is the feeling that that activity is now over there, somewhere else; Green (The grass is always greener on the other side.). In other words, F# is active like C#, but it's sounds like it's coming from a distance. G is smooth, and sounds almost fluid. I've recently began to notice that when people speak casually, they speak in the key of G (especially where there in no emotional attachment. Just explaining something, or sharing an simple idea). You can even think of the throat chakra, as it is blue, and therefore the voice (but specifically, i am convinced G aligns more with turquoise/aquamarine). (Incidentally, Sam Leak in this very talk speaks it mostly in G, usually resolving down from a perfect 5th, D) Ok, so, moving on to A-flat: Cool, distant. Sounds twinkly, like a star. Songs about about death are often in A-flat. (Pet Shop Boys "You're Funny Uncle," is one example). A-note is the solidification of that which was once heavenly. Like C, it becomes grounded again, but wheres C is robust, fleshy, almost biological/organic, A-note instead sounds smooth and hard, like metal. So i feel that A is like the earth elements, in a way. B-flat immediately lifts off and sounds focused, almost piercing, like the E-flat. But much more gentle and rounded. There is a magical quality to B-flat (Bobby Vinton's "Blue Velvet"). Finally, B is an even softer type of B-flat feeling. And it is that sort of gentle, yet piercing quality that allows B to merge back into C, which is red. B is magenta. // You can follow my words here, as you go up the scale of your own instrument, and you can actually hear what i'm describing. I deliberately did not mention my color associations with the notes, because i want people to to make their own associations and visual descriptions. Keep little diary of what you hear when you do your note comparisons and not only will you hear what i hear, you will be halfway there to learning perfect pitch. The notes are just like colors. All you have to do is to start quietly paying attention to them individually for a bit. Especially in comparison. - frank montoya in Bent, New Mexico Here is my uTube page: www.youtube.com/channel/UCQzAv4E_kMLQLpK9vzQYg8Q

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@yesnoidkbrobroidknoyes3049

9 months ago

@SamLeak If you're under time pressure, any resources on techniques to improve are much appreciated. :) Which techniques does the literature suggest are most effective for improving in young adulthood? How did you specifically go about it, & what would you have done differently? Are there any recently published studies of interest, including yours? Thanks for such an in depth public critique! It seems very difficult to discern whether a study has reliably & correctly interpreted their results (etc); even if you have formal & critical analysis training in the field at hand.

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@nononapgaming6039

3 years ago

Hey dude, this is an amazing video, and I love the way you out it together. After watching some of Rick Beato’s stuff, I got a bit discouraged. After seeing this and hearing that you are running an experiment, I got really excited. I went to the site, filled out all my information, and submitted it, but when I clicked the link to download the experiment, it said that the link did not exist. Is this a common problem, or is it something that happens often? If you could help me with this issue, I would be very grateful. Anyways, thanks for the inspiration and the great video, I can’t wait to see what you do next!

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@perfectpitch2506

3 years ago

This is the first time Im actually quite excited for an ear training course , so many questions got me hyped.Quick Question I have been selected in Group A what does that mean ? Is there some kind of problem? Thanks!!

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@bobwrotenstien315

3 years ago

What is the tonal memory required to be able to modulate between all keys freely in your head as well as identify those modulations when listening. That skill would be the one worth studying.

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@maximuswilliam318

3 years ago

Good Day Sir :) Can I ask a question? Do you have another download link of the Absolute Pitch Training Experiment Sounds like the file in the download link in the PDF instructions that you gave to me is broken I've downloaded it again winrar says "file is corrupted I've try to rebuilt/repair the file but it has missing contents That's All Thanks :)

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@emilpysenisoncrack420

3 years ago

I don't define the terms but I feel like there is a big difference between absolute pitch and pitch recognition. If you ask someone with absolute pitch like Jacob Collier or Charlie Puth how they feel notes they are going to explain it in the same way as we feel colour. It's deeply engraved into their heads from their childhoods.

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