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Welcome to the show! Regular viewers might be a little bit confused by this. Dan and I will die on the hill defending the right of musicians (and guitar players ā ha!) to be able to play loud. If thereās no loud, thereās no rockānāroll ā itās as simple as that.
However, nothing thatās actually worth anything in life is free (except maybe love, but thatās a whole other story). Those volume-created endorphins that make live music such a blissful experience have a cost, and it can be your hearing. Many are the tales of musicians famous and less so, whose hearing has suffered irreparable damage as a result of exposure to extended loud noise.
So what are we to do? What do we need to know and what are some of things we can do?
This conversation includes one intelligent human ā Tom Trones of Minuendo ā and two others just about hanging in there, discussing all of the above without hubris or shock factor. Consider it a springboard ā if you havenāt already jumped ā to better awareness of the issues surrounding noise and volume. What we all do after that is, inevitably, up to us as individuals. Food for thought, we hope.
Enjoy the show!
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Interesting bits and go-to sections
0:00 Hello & welcome
1:24 What are we discussing this?
2:25 Why Tom, who is Tom?
3:45 Why we donāt love earplugs
5:42 What is the actual problem?
7:35 First tinnitus experience?
9:18 dB - sound pressure and time
11:45 Genetic & physiological factors?
14:00 Measurement & distance?
16:50 Frequency and damage?
19:00 Early signs
20:49 The playing āfeelā problem
24:50 Give yourself time
27:15 Sensitivity and desensitisation?
30:35 The actual physical damage
31:31 Itās not always tinnitus
35:45 The lies we tell ourselves
37:00 How strong for the filters?
38:45 Letās make some noise
43:55 Dan loves the loud connection
49:45 Finger in the ear: occlusion
51:00 Tom has a play
54:00 Closing thoughts
Guitars used in this show
ā¢ Fender Johnny Marr Jaguar
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ā¢ PRS Myles Kennedy Signature
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ā¢ Amps used in todayās show
Hamstead Artist 20+RT with 1 x 12 Celestion Alnico Cream Speaker
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ā¢ Marshall 1962 BluesBreaker Combo with Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
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YouTube Comments - 338 Comments
Top Comments of this video!! :3
I got permanent Tinnitus this year from going to a show without earplugs. So happy to see this on your show! Hearing protection is THE most important thing you can discuss on your channel. Tinnitus sucks!
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Been hoping for a show on hearing protection for years! So so important. We're nothing without our hearing. Thanks lads!
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I have suffered my entire life with tinnitus and it got really bad in my mid 20s after a gun shot injury. Iāve been told over and over that there is nothing to be done. Itās lead to a very serious source of ongoing depression with me. It was really refreshing to hear about efforts in coping. Protect your ears when you can everyone! Just be smart about it. Thank you for this episode
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I'm an audiologist and a guitar player, and I thought this was great. Kudos to Tom for providing a lot of important, accurate information. I look forward to trying out the Minuendo plugs. Good job guys.
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Ironically, Mick has a Play Loud T-shirt on. š
Very important topic guys! Thank you.
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This is the TPS content I live for
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Yes, yes, yes.
Protect your hearing in any way possible. I've lost half of the audible frequencies due to damage in my left ear.
You don't what you've got 'till it's gone!
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Oh man. I'm commenting before watching. I just sat in front of my computer coming back from a gig, ears ringing. Unexpected bulls eye.
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At first, tinnitus made me anxious, because it just seemed to get worse and it was like I didnāt have any control over it. Then I happened to find out that some cases are influenced by muscle tension around the jaw. I tried stretching and massaging my jaw and found out I was lucky enough for it to help. Itās really nice to have the feeling Iām somewhat in control of it. The tinnitus hasnāt really bothered me for a while now. Thereās also specialised physiotherapists on this subject who can help.
Too bad most doctors donāt know about this.
(Also, stress and sleep patterns can be of important influence)
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Growing up I played drums as well as guitar, and never used proper ear protection.....I got to college and formed my first band, and again, never used ear protection......I started to notice some early signs of tinnitus, and it scared me. At 22, I made an appointment with an audiologist to get a hearing test and to bring up my concerns as a musician. The results told me I had "remarkable hearing for my age demographic", even though I suffered from the early stages of tinnitus. They suggested getting a mold of my ear done for professional musician's earplug in order to prevent any future hearing loss. I happily obliged, and I (now 24) have to say.....One of the best investments I've made as a musician/guitarist!!!! Not only do I use them when playing "at volume" or during rehearsals, but they've also become an essential for any concerts/live shows I go to, especially since I like to be right in front of the guitar amps!!!
So happy you're bringing this topic up, as it affects us all!!!
Edit: happy to hear DOOM METAL being mentioned! Would absolutely love to see y'all go through some potential avenues for Doom tones!!!!!
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June 1977, Motorhead supporting Hawkwind, when live music was properly loud. 20 feet back from the stage, dead centre I swear it was like being in the beam of a jet engine. You felt it as much as heard it. There was an actual 'heat' to the sound. One mate climbed up into one of the PA bass bins and was unconcious by the end. True.
Happy days!
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In the spirit of irony, I will listen to this video through my car's speakers so loud that by the time the video is done, my ears are ringing. I think it's what Tom would want.
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Dan can play guitar like that AND does jiu jitsu?! Now THAT is rock. The world needs to know what belt he is.
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The concert that began my ruin, was the summer of 1988 when GNR (which I was 3rd row in front of Slash) opened for Aerosmith. I had to switch seats with a friend (25 rows back) so I could stay for the rest of the show. I never got better, just worse. Too many nights in my own band after that, combined with countless hours of bad ear "management" has resulted in a constant ringing. Like crickets at night. Keeping my back and neck muscles loose, staying emotionally stable, and using ear blocking equipment when running chain saws, lawnmowers, and weed eaters is really key to subduing this. Playing live is over and so are most live shows.
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Unfortunately too late for me gents. Been a gigging guitarist since the age of 12. I'm now 54 and haven't been able to play for the last 2 years due to three different but important issues with my hearing. I can no longer hear the pitch of notes correctly, I have 4 different frequencies and volumes of tinnitus and a 40db loss of hearing in my left ear and 3 different frequencies and volumes of tinnitus in my right ear with a 20db loss. Not being able to play has caused me other mental health issues. To anyone out there thinking it won't happen to you, please do something today to mitigate any potential trouble in the future. My life is truly miserable without being able to express myself in a musical way, either writing and recording, gigging or listening to it. Best wishes and thanks for sharing this very important issue. š
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On the dangly neck stuff: the point at which i switched to moulded earplugs was when i dropped one of the standard ones at a gig. Bugger that, i thought, and went rummaging amongst the dropped pint goasses. I eventually found it, i thought, and stuck it back in the key ring cannister, thinking iād clean it when i got home. When i did, i found 3 plugs in the cannisrer. Either iād picked up someone elseās, or they were breeding in there.
The moulded ones are on a string with an alligator clip. I have not lost them yet.
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My favorite quote from a book by audio producer Sherman "Barry" Keene. "PROTECT THE GIFT".
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Mick wearing an appropriate t-shirt š
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If you play in a band, you will develop hearing problems. It's only a matter of time. And once the damage is done there is no reversing it. I think this is a great product for concert goers as well. I'd like to see this company get into IEMs.
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@TomTrones
6 months ago
Thanks for having me on, guys! I'm glad to be part of increasing the awareness about taking care of our most important sense! And from the many great comments on the topic from your audience, it seems they agree!
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