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The conflict between body and spirit is how you end up with....Gollum.
He both hated his life and feared to leave it.
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What gift did you get from Eru Iluvatar?
Valar: We got to sing creation into existence! And we're immortal.
Ents: We got immortality too, and amazing strength!
Elves: We got immortality and a holy land to live in after Middle-earth gets messed up partly because of us!
Men: I got a rock.
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It's pretty funny how even Manwe admits that part of the reason men can't live in Aman is because he and his followers would treat them like vermin. It really helps to flesh out some characters who are too often seen as stuffy and too perfect to relate to.
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Iluvatar: "Death is not a curse, it is a gift."
Man: "How is it a gift?"
Iluvatar: "I designed you so that if you didn't die on your own you would basically torture yourself to death eventually. Thus, your natural death is a mercy and blessing."
Man: "I'm not sure you understand what a gift is..."
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Out of context Tolkien:
"He would grow soon to contempt his manhood and hate those more richly endowed."
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Technically, Ar-Pharazon and those of his men who landed in Valinor did achieve immortality. Just not in the way they had hoped. They weren't killed by the landslide that covered them, but rather imprisoned there until the ending of the world. So TECHNICALLY, Sauron was honest with them when he told them that they could seize immortality by travelling to Aman...
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"How dare they refuse the gift? Time to nuke them from orbit!" -Eru
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Oh, they don't??
There goes my plan of running around on the green fields of Valinor, enjoying some delicious Valinorean ice cream.
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The fate of Men isn't necessarily the less desirable as Tolkien wrote that by time even the elves would envy them for not having to endure age after age of the world. Also Men will play an important role in the second music of the Ainur whereas the Elves may completely vanish when Arda is reforged because they are so strongly bound to it
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reminds me of a quote from interview with the vampire: Armand: Do you know how few vampires have the stamina for immortality? How quickly they perish of their own will? The world changes, we do not. Therein lies the irony that finally kills us
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The fading of the elves who remain in middle earth is a pretty shitty fate too.
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Well if the whole World is going to disappear someday. And if the elves and their spirit are "bound" to it, they will also disappear one day.
So ... they are not truly immortal. Their destiny is to live ... and disappear forever with the World itself, which is also a curse.
If the human spirit goes elsewhere when they leave their flesh, (we don't know where) it might actually be better.
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If there's going to be a discussion on which is better, the Gift of Men or the Gift of Elves, I think the best person to ask would be Arwen. Her last words to Aragorn before he died were: "But I say to you, King of the Numenoreans, not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall. As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last. For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men, it is bitter to receive."
Sure, the Silmarillion states that the Elves and even the Valar envy the mortality of Men, but Men envy the immortality of the Elves and the Valar. And seeing as Arwen is the only individual in Tolkien's Legendarium to have actually experienced both and given her opinion on the matter, I'd say she's the closest thing we have to an expert on the topic.
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Sympathetic to men. The elves revolt and screw up constantly, and the Valar forgive them over and over. Men suffer and are corrupted by a Maiar (who should be the Valar’s problem), and their greatest civilization is destroyed and the survivors are left to fight Sauron, who they’re not even capable of killing.
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On my opinion about inmortality, this is what Captain Teaune, Keeper of the Pirate's Law said this to Jack.
"It's now about living forever, Jackie. The trick is living with yourself forever."
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Of course it was unfair. Elves had a choice - they could have lived in Valinor. Both sindar and noldor made their choice to stay in the case of the first ones or go to Middle Earth in case of noldor no matter the suffering inflicted on them by Morgoth. People had no choice but to live on a spoiled land of Middle Earth and fight against Morgoth and Sauron. They were unwillingly used as a tool to weaken Morgoth - how could this be fair?
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People don't realize that the nature of the elves actually makes them profoundly limited in many ways. They don't change things. They don't advance. In many ways they lack the same level of free will which humans enjoy. Humans are meant for a higher purpose, that's why Eru wants them to leave Arda. They appear to have humble beginnings, but their increased ability to choose and cause change reveals that in the future beyond death they will surpass the elves.
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Eru: My Eldest Children will be immortal, fairest, and wisest
Eru: My Adoptive Children will be gifted in craftsmanship
Eru: My Second Children…uh your time is limited on Earth, but hey you’re my favorite child!
Men: gee, thanks dad…
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I have an idea: let’s invade the Undying Lands and wrest immortality from the Valar’s cold dead hands!!!
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Would you prefer the fate of the Elves or that of Men? And do you think that Men's fear of death was unfounded? As always subtitles are available and feedback is welcome!
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