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Being a truly "Old Guy", 73, whenever I look at new, fancy electronic gear I think, "Something else to break...". I think the bike industry is just like any other in that they must innovate or die. We as consumers have been conditioned to always want the "Latest and Greatest" of whatever we're interested in. For transparency, I will say if I ever win the lottery I'll try out all the "Cool" stuff too.
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You're spot on Juliet.
Built in obsolescence, endless trends and fads, tech for the sake of it, incompatibility of different firms kit -- none of it is good for cycling, just for profits.
I'm staying low tech as long as it's possible
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As an ex miltary engineer, i have seen and worked on some highly complicated equipment. ComplIicated kit will undoubtedly break when you need it most. I try and follow the mantra of 'keep it simple'. Less to go wrong, easier to fix and cheaper...
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The appeal of bikes for me has always been the beautiful simplicity and efficiency. I hate the evolution to complexity, especially when there's little to no benefit. It's kept me from upgrading.
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One of the things I like about bicycles is that they are mechanical and simple. Adding electronics to the drivetrain is not for me. I could see it for racers, but being able to fix a bike on my own or at least tape the cable into a single gear is preferable to the niftyness of electronic shifting.
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Spot on they are trying to get you to have to go to dealers.. I love rim brakes, mechanical drivetrains, tubes, ally rims, steel, titanium frames etc :) yep I've owned the latest and greatest which I have now sold and prefer the older tech :) works for me.. Pete
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Started mountain biking in the mid 2000s when I turned 18 and worked as a bike mechanic and working and riding bikes back then was just heaven but over time the industry started making new fads and standards and using us the customer as guinea pigs for testing cough pressfit bottom brackets cough and now having to deal with the lack of quality control when it leaves the Far East.
Now everything is not interchangable, every requires constant maintenance and that's if it hasn't already broke and the amount of SRAM parts that would break just out of warranty led me to no longer buy any SRAM parts whatsoever.
I miss mountain bikes but these days I just ride single speed/fixed gear road bikes and BMXs, I have no time for planned obsolescence, piss poor build quality and poor quality control.
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Completely agree Juliet ā now the obvious thing you need to do is go talk to your sponsors and other contacts in the bike industry and tell them that it's not on to make unrepairable products and not to offer spare parts. Things won't change if we all keep getting sucked in by marketing bling and buy these products anyway.
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Dean Juliette, thatĀ“s part of the reason, why I, being a bike mechanic , since one decade mostly singlespeed ride
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Yes, definitely agree, they are always coming up with ideas to sell more to the consumer, to solve problems that do not exist!!!
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This is and was NOT boring!!! This is exactly what I feared in wirelessā¦ Iād wanna throw the bike in a river! Not to mention a few years from nowā¦ oh, we donāt support software āXā.3.4.whatever. Keep after it Julie as this is inexcusable!
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The more you complicate the plumbing the easier it is to stuff up the drain.. An old saying but true. I refuse to buy an electronic groupset. I want the simple reliability of mechanical shifters. The world has too many batteries filling our landfills already.
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Prefer tubes and rim brakes - and wouldn't ever consider going to electronic shifting. Propelling yourself on a bike, fuelled by food, but having to rely on batteries 'fuelled' by the grid to change gear. Like using a smartphone as a mirror or having to charge a cigarette.
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I'm still using downtube shifters from the 90's baby, and brake levers that only have to do one thing are stronger, cheaper and fit the hands better.
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Wait until they make gear-shifting a subscription model, and software-block it if you donāt pay after the 30-day free trial ends. BMW tried this stunt with heated seats a few years back. The moral: KISS.
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Iāve been at my bike shop for 38 years - Iāve seen a few changes. Friction shifters were replaced with indexed shifters, but they were still on the down tube, and it was okay because there was a D-ring on the side of the shifter that would turn off the indexing. Then came STI and people worried about index only shifters. By the time the 2nd generation STI shifters came out they were widely accepted. Then this idea of electronic shifting started showing up. Mavic Zap didnāt work. Mavic Mectronic didnāt work slightly better. Then there was Di2, and I knew consumers were screwed. 10-speed Dura-Ace Di2 was available for 8 months and the new deeper cassette splines only fit on the new cassette body - nothing was backwards compatible. In stark contrast, Dura-Ace, Ultegra and 105 were all interchangeable in the previous version. The cost of buying and maintaining a high end bike more than doubled. Post Covid we saw another significant jump as bike manufacturers saw the need for proprietary stems and seatposts.
I sell bikes to customers. I sell them bikes I would never buy at prices I couldnāt afford (Iām a grown man with a mortgage and I work at a bike shop). I watch them suffer with problems I never have. My road bike is a 2014 Specialized Tarmac with rim brakes and mechanical shifting. I donāt have cables inside my stem, I donāt have an aero handlebar, itās a bike from 10 years ago with parts that are much older. At my level Iām not at a disadvantage to riders with new bikes.
New stuff comes along and nobody asks if itās really better, itās just newer. Then it gets accepted and the option of using the older struggles goes away. This isnāt progress, itās people believing what they are told over and over.
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I really think that obsolescence is becoming a way of life these days. I don't think that the companies are deliberately trying to make things that don't last a long time, but when technology (meaning electronics / computers) start creeping in it just sort of happens. I'm a tech person but I also don't think this is really right, but for now it seems to be the price we pay for all of the innovation.
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Welcome to the resistance :)
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Aside from cost this is another reason I have avoided going electronic for shifting. I know how to fix mechanical groupsets! If it stops working there are a fairly limited amount of reasons, most of which are simple to fix. The workings of electronic groupsets are a lot less accessible for home mechanics, and it seems more likely to just stop working with no clear reason.
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@tommccarty4163
3 months ago
Rim brake, dura ace mechanical, tubes for roadā¦canāt even remember the last time I had an issue on a ride.
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