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The Portuguese replacing governments with Catholic ones suddenly scares the crap out of Toranaga, because he is smart enough to realize that they're already halfway there. Two of the five regents are Catholics. They're forcing him out, which means soon the government would be half Catholic. He was worried about Ishido and even trying to get the Catholic regents to turn against him, but in this moment I don't think he's thinking about Ishido anymore. He's realizing that Portugal is the real enemy of Japan.
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I actually liked the original series take on that line better. Toranaga was informed that England supported the Netherlands in their rebellion for independence against Spain and Toranaga said to Blackthorne, that there was no mitigating circumstances for rebelling against your sovereign lord. To which Blackthorne replied "unless you win", which Toranaga agreed with a smile.
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William Adams (the character Blackthorne is based on) really did push some heavy propaganda against the Catholics because he worked for the Dutch East India Company and the United Provinces were at war with the Hispanic Monarchy and in the end, the Tokugawa favoured the Dutch traders because they weren't interested in proselitism.
That being said, by 1600 the Japanese authorities had already started to distrust the Portuguese after nearly 20 years were several daimyos, Oda Nobunaga included, used the Jesuits to counter the political power of the Buddhist temples. Both Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu were aware of the growing Portuguese presence in Asia and they definitely knew about Macau being a colony, basically because since China banned all trade with Japan (the Ming blamed the Japanese for the growing acts of piracy in their coasts) the Portuguese acted as a middleman between both nations. I mean, "Macau" is literally a Portuguese minstranslation of the name of the island of Aomen. Not just that, but the Philippines were already under the rule of the Spanish and, again, the Japanese knew about it: Hideyoshi even planned to conquer them but he died before he could start his invasion. So having Torenaga (Tokugawa Ieyasu) being this surprised about European colonialism and the Jesuits being used as some sort of subversive force trying to pave the way by converting the population before an imminent invasion seems a bit out of place because at that point he already suspected it. Then there's the fact that even when Blackthorne talks about the "kings of Portugal and Spain" as if they were diferent people, by 1580 (and up to 1640) the king of Spain (or more correctly, Castile and Aragon) was also the king of Portugal.
That's just some small context for those who are interested in the real history, otherwise I'm really liking the series so far.
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I love how Mariko turns "To vanquish our common enemies" into "To enlist you against his enemies."
It's a subtle but important mistranslation, and because she's accurately translated other things that clearly upset her, neither one has any reason to think she's worded this to slightly weigh it in favour of the Portuguese, and she did it effortlessly and quickly. It reminds you of just how sharp and dangerous Mariko could be if she weren't totally loyal to Toranaga.
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@FXNetworks
2 months ago
Can Toranaga and Blackthorne work together?
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