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Genre: News & Politics
Date of upload: Premiered Apr 14, 2024 ^^
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
I love the way Joe can ask hard questions. Why does Sacha Lord get a free ride?
He’s at best controversial, and many would say he’s damaged Manchester nightlife massively. If you listen to this though, you’d think he was the next messiah.
There are loads of places I can go to listen to someone flogging a book unchallenged for an hour - Joe shouldn’t be one of them.
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I love the podcast and political coverage of Joe but you guys really missed with this one.
getting the promoter of 10k+ capacity venue and a 50k+ cap festival on to talk about the state of grassroots music reveals that you have little understanding of the dynamics which are causing the decline.
this is a bit like getting the largest shareholder of tesco on to talk about the decline of the local greengrocer.
and there was little attempt to push back on him during the interview on his work and role in the current decline.
supervenues like WHP and commercial festivals like Parklife are big factors in why things are so fucked up at the moment in grassroots music and why independent spaces are dropping like flies.
when a venue closes, that space is gone and we are not getting it back. it will be snapped up by a developer for commercial/residential purposes which will always be seen more favourably by council and local authorities. the UK is well on its way to becoming a very boring, shitty place to live if you enjoy music and culture and this was a big missed oppurtunity to platform some helpful discourse around an issue that does not get talked about.
big up everyone else in the comments also pointing this out
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As a former WHP regular then barman I'd disagree, people now go for the spectacle rather than the music. Was inevitable with the size of the brand. Last two visits I heard loads of people complaining about garage/techno at a night they bought tickets for! Glad Manchester still has The White Hotel as an alternative.
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He got spiked in his own club - all you need to know about this self-publicising architect of gentrification - he references Madchester alongside Ed Sheeran and the 1975 - Clueless as to how great Manchester was and to what it has become under Cool Daddy Burnham and this line vacuum, those who know, know all about this prat - and his crap taste.
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I'm one of the kids in the Hacienda photos you see bobbing up everywhere, many of my peers were part of the music scene at the time. It was a very organic grass roots thing originally. To me things went very elitest. Small venues desperately needed support in or around the city, for raw young talent to have somewhere to play. Night & Day cafe for e.g, had to fight to stay. Because of noise abatement orders from people owning expensive apartments nearby that most people I know could never afford.
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@Explicit367
1 month ago
He hasn't saved Manchester's nightlife, if anything he's made it worse. Warehouse Project as a brand has decimated the music scene in Manchester, it's ruined the ability of small promoters to put on large names due to the clauses they sign that stop them from playing in the city for a period before and after their booking at WHP. His brand being the only one to be able to book large names in this manner isn't just bad for promoters, it's bad for the venues, too. If nobody can put nights on that are profitable, venues go out of business. The cost of booking venues right now in Manchester is outrageous because they're competing against WHP and Park Life. From a business standpoint that makes sense, after all, of course you want to be the only guy in town booking big headliners. Just screw the rest of the scene, right? Who cares that smaller venues and promoters can't eat as long as he's packing WHP and selling overpriced drinks to yuppies. Sound System culture in Manchester is dead. WHP and Parklife exist because the culture before them paved the way and all that's left is small pockets in Leeds and Sheffield, which are also under threat. 10 years ago you'd have been blown away at the number of big names playing in Manchester across all of its most loved venues. Now? Nothing. Most of those venues are gone. This is of course before you even get on the subject of sound restrictions imposed by the council and the effect that's having. You should have asked him about how he bankrupted Sankeys and swanned off to Ibiza for a couple years... He's done more to destroy the nightlife than Covid did. This guy man.
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