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In this video, I spend 3 days fixing everything on my Eclipse GSX engine only to have it fail upon first start in the weirdest way possible. How in the world did this happen?
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G'day Alex, I experienced a very similar issue when replacing my cam gears and gaskets, along with belts, and several other seals or gaskets, on the front end of my Eclipse. When you're replacing as many seals or gaskets as you did, it's obviously, going to directly effect the oil pressure. As the pressure increases, the original graphite, factory head gasket (very btittle), can no longer support the increased pressure...and it fails. The head gasket was probably ready to crack, before you even began replacing cam gears, timing belt, etc...Cheers from Western Australia 🇦🇺.
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You added about 15 psi of oil pressure from fixing all the leaky seals lol. Nice job and nice find.
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Sometimes you get a 32k mile GTR for a 62k miles price.... and sometimes you fix timing and blow a head gasket. Super fun watching you give it a go, keep it coming!
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Welcome to the wonderful world of DSM's my friend. I have a 95 Eagle Talon TSi (same AWD turbo as Eclipse, different bumpers). I honestly can't tell you how many times I've had mine apart, currently on 3rd & hopefully final engine setup - built 6 bolt block with 2g head. You're doing great, pretty sure your head gasket was just tired & sitting around mostly for better part of a year it was just it's time.. couple of suggestions that come from almost 20 years with this car: get rid of that crank sensor! DSM link will let you run a 1g CAS - simple swap that let's you drop that crank sensor/trigger wheel & your 2g cam sensor & pick up inside the cam gear. The "hall effect" 1g cam sensor will do both & it's literally checking a box on your DSM link software & splicing a couple of wires (or they sell a harness thru DSM link I beleive). Great job on your timing belt - again, suggestions based on horrific 1st hand experience: the vibration isn't that bad - you can always jump in your CL65 (I've had a 04 CL55 for about 2 years & 3 ABC line explosions!). Drop the balance shaft so you can get rid of that belt. If/when that belt should break, it will destroy all that is close to it - crank sensor, your timing belt & parts that keep it in time, hello interference engine, I didn't like those valves anyway! Also, I've never had a Gates racing timing belt (the blue one) fail, fray or break ever & is worth the extra $ in my opinion. Sorry about the novel, your doing great - don't let the DSM issues bum you out, it pays off once you get it going again until something else let's go until ultimately, you too will end up with a built 6-bolt! Good luck man - keep up the great vids/builds!
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Throughout the history of the world, nothing good has ever happened after someone mutters the phrase “what could possibly go wrong?”
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The 0869MC on the side of the belt is the date code. That code means the 86th day of 2009, and the MC stands for the Gates plant that was in Moncks Corner, South Carolina. That plant closed in 2009. That belt is 15 years old, and it’s a good thing you are replacing it for sure.
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This video series brings up so many memories and emotions. DSM was my life years ago. It was my first project car. I turbocharged a non-turbo 4g63, smoked all my friends and blew up the tranny. Went to the junkyard and picked up a turbo tranny for $75 and was back in business. Back then parts were cheap and it was so much fun!
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Okay, I just finished binge watching your entire series on this GSX—to say it has been massively interesting would be an understatement! Thanks for all the hard work you put into these very educational videos. Would I ever do something like this? Absolutely not! But I could hand you a wrench. 😂 Thanks again!
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Dang, between Gears & Gasoline and LSC its a DSM Saturday!
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Maybe fixing all of the other leaks like the cam seals and oil filter housing gaskets caused the engine to make enough oil pressure to push out of the head gasket? You also mentioned the oil pump wasn’t aligned before so again maybe after aligning it bumped the pressure up to start exposing leaks.
Think of it as a blessing because once you put it on the dyno that head gasket was probably going to blow anyway if it is indeed original. Possibly saved you from catastrophic failure later on.
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After reading some of the comments, i totally agree the theory of sealing the oil leaks that you did could increase the oil pressure slightly. I think you should look at from the standpoint that someone was looking over your shoulder protecting you from a giant mistake. If that engine head gasket really let go think of the potential damage is could cause. You've been saved my man!
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I follow a lot of youtubers and have been following you for many years now. Your channel is amazing and is the best out there. Everything you work on is very informative and you make it entertaining. I look forward to your uploads every Saturday as I grew up watching Shade Tree Mechanics with my father every weekend morning and your channel brings me back. Keep up the hard work as I know this is not easy!! By the way, your hand cleaners are are awesome!
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Good grief. This Eclipse is living up to it's name.... it's totally eclipsing what you thought you'd have to spend to get it back on the road! LOL
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Most of the other comments pretty much pinpoint it,.. but at @ 10:44 my theory is that all the vibrating and cleaning got into the graphite gasket and loosened up what was already a very slight seepage leak. And then perhaps by putting the oil pump back in the correct timing and fixing the oil coolant filter gaskets, it pulsated the oil at a different pressure or different time and the head gasket corner was no longer able to deal with it.
The weakest link in oil gaskets presented itself.. especially after probably accidentally getting messed with and soaking up a bunch of degreaser.
I've worked on DSMs for the last 30 years and they're probably just as picky or picker then any high-performance race engine. The tolerances are pretty tight to make sure that car runs properly.
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I did all of this on my Eclipse back in 2021 when I replaced my worn/overheating engine and as crazy as it sounds my previous engine wasn't vibrating, but the belt for the harmonic balancer was ripped off due to an oil leak in the same spots you had. The engine wasn't any good though because it had overheated on the previous owner (a friend of mine) and when I took it all apart the block was pitted and damaged and it was cheaper to get a donor engine then to try and completely redo the old ~125k miles engine.
But same oil leaks and this is bringing back memories of when I first attempted to look at the original motor in it!
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It happened to me, by fixing many leaking small points like: changing oil pan gasket, oil cooling gasket, and crankshaft gaskets...it started leaking from an engine oil gallery plug, which was a little bit defect but never leaked before. I think by fixing everything (gaskets and leaking points) changes the oil pressure, and oil finds a way out on a weak spot...I guess fixing all gaskets and o-rings will be the answer on an old car...we all learned that in a bad way! *i personally hate moments like this but I'm so happy that you will show that in a new video, love and peace bro!!
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I'm thinking the head gasket simply got jealous of all the work you did to the front.
It was just it's time, and it's way better that you found it before making a mess on the dyno floor...
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Settings nuts and bolts in the spark plug valley without any spark plugs installed is ballsy, lol.
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@legitstreetcars Thank you so much for showing all the issues with your builds. All of us can definitely relate!
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