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Date of upload: Apr 11, 2022 ^^
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Forgot to mention hip hop. Hip Hop has had a big cultural impact on young Americans for the last 30+ yrs or so. That's why we see alot more people of this generation speaking in a tone more associated with how some black people speak. To certain extent it can be considerd a complement as to say the greatest form of flattery is imitation. But at the same time some people take it too far which makes them disingenuous. I believe the coolest thing anybody can do is be yourself. Don't try and be something you're not.
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As a white actor, I played a character from Mississippi in a period piece, and I found that the white MS dialect was very similar to AAVE. The Black actors I worked with confirmed that they shared a lot of similarities, but were still distinct. AAVE itself is also not universal and is quite different depending on the region in which it is spoken.
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I grew up poor in Louisiana. This is how i talk. The sounds of the English language erupt from our faces before we can know or say what color we are. We mirror what we hear in every moment around us, we mimic those we idolise, and even code switch for efficacy and survival as we age. Usage hopefully indicates a tone of sincere intent/identification, but that's dependent on the ability of others to not automatically scream offence by default.
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I grew up in the âhoodâ so I didnât know I myself did that until I got a job in a more predominantly Caucasian community. I found myself having to âfixâ the way I speak and I would be embarrassed to let my guard down. Which made me realize that I was wrong because unfortunately thatâs who I am. I canât fix something that I picked up my whole life.
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I have a naive question about the topic. (mentioning this because I'm sure there are plenty of ill-intentioned questions in here)
Is there a way to guess where the line is between actual appropriation on one side, and just the organic process of cultures permeating into one-another on the other side?
I'm asking as a non-native english speaker. I probably don't have the experience needed to discern between those who impersonate African-American people, and those who come from a background where there's just a lot of linguistic co-evolution between communities.
I guess I'm asking because I may pick-up expressions from English language media, without knowing if it's AAVE or not.
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i think that people have to understand the difference between a someone who grew up around people who spoke standard american english with a standard american dialect who use aave to sound cool and trendy (which makes me uncomfortable/ makes me cringe) and someone who grew up in an area where aave is the common way to speak because for those individuals itâs simply how they talk and how theyâve always spoken which in my opinion is understandable. i grew up around both forms of speech so i sound like a mixture of both it just depends on the person, who they are around and where theyâre from.
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I have a white gurl at my job who only does blaccent when sheâs around her black coworkers and I called her out on it. Especially when I heard her true self when she got around our white coworkers. I didnât mind at first because there are whites who grew up in black neighborhoods and speak with a blaccent all their lives but itâs something completely different when they only use it around us. How ironic is it that this country as a whole donât wanna give black folks equal rights and the denial of racism yet are fascinated with every form of our culture.
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The problem is when theyâre using that âvoiceâ to fit in or sound cool when they donât talk like that on a regular basis and definitely didnât grow up speaking that way . People who naturally talk in that way get criticized for improper grammar, get told that they âsound ghetto,â or that people canât understand them .. it does get frustrating at times to see the double standard.
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This subject hurts on so many levels! My grandmother came from a family of sharecroppers, could not attend school. Her vernacular was used to mock her, but what could she do? That didn't mean she appreciated it because she had to take it! But now, it was acceptable? No!
She was in night school when I was in kindergarten, had basically taught herself to read and count, but had to learn to write her name! It hurts because, I was teased for talking white my whole childhood, by family! She was always so proud, but gave me grief that I wasn't black enough. We are all different, embrace, don't mock and call it admiration!
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Elvis was from a poor rural background where he grew up with gospel and Blues with the Black neighborhood kids, Awkwafina was brought up in Queens. I think its a different matter when it's your upbringing (I still have a southern accent thanks to growing up with jim crow elders that moved to DC). As a 1/2 Central American, DC native, White Southern dad raised and born in Anacostia DC during riots, I confuse people a lotđâ€
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Thinking every black person has to have the âblaccentâ or else theyâre white is crazy thođ i mean people are just like going against themselves, Not realizing how they sound. Black people arenât all the same, Theyâre very diverse just like all the other races. An accent is an accent. A person has no control over which accent they have.
I think most people definitely acknowledge the fact that black people exist and they sort of were the first oneâs to have that accent.
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My problem with âblaccentsâ is that people will shame black people for the way some of us normally talk, but when someone non-black uses its âtrendy Gen z slangâ and âjust how they talkâ (which I get is the case for some but NOT all) Were expected to be okay with it but it isnât fair, it isnât flattering, it honestly it just feels like a mockery to many of us.
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The internet slang and Blaccent/AAVE thing is an interesting discussion since a lot of people probably don't even know that it is linked. Like the first time it happened to me was I was quoting a online joke and my brother asked, "Why are you talking like a black guy?" (for context i am 110% white) and I was like, 'What? I'm just saying a thing I saw online?' and it wasn't until I actively researched into a lot of meme origins that I realized that most things in all of society, memes/music/fashion/culture, start in black communities and circles, get adopted by queer black communities, get adopted by white queer communities, then they finally are adopted by the mainstream. The distilling and strain of the original ideas causing them to be mostly lost by the time it is in the mainstream.
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There are people out there that purposely do it for whatever reason but I also think it can happen depending on where you grew up. I lived in Kentucky for about 7 years and I developed a strong country accent but it went away after a while. I do have occasional slip ups and I hate it so muchđ
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@NoahSpurrier
4 months ago
In high school there were cliques, of course. There was a black group with just one super white, Nordic blonde girl. She had the timbre, spoke in AAVE, she had braids. I got to know her a bit. Apparently she grew up in a mostly black home and neighborhood. She wasnât adopting or faking anything.
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