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00:23 Notebook, plan and disappointment
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02:41 The hardest part for me
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Hey Lindie! Not sure if you're gonna read this, but just wanted to say: don't give up! The sense of fulfillment you get when you start reading words in Thai without thinking too much is priceless. I learned the Thai alphabet a few years ago solely through Thai Pod 101 and my advice would be to sloooowly learn each letter, following their 25 lessons on the alphabet. At first it will seem like you're cracking a code: What's the root consonant? Is this a long or short vowel? Oh wait, are there actually silent letters? What's the tone??? It takes a few days/weeks to get accustomed to the writing but once you're comfortable with it it's like you've gained a superpower honestly hahahah So yeah, good luck and carry on, you got this!!
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As a thai, I can remember it took me 2 years to memorize all 44 letters when I was in kindergarten đ
and normally, it takes at least 3 years for thai students to learn all the thai reading & writing rules from school. The faster way would be remembering how each word is pronounced regardless of thinking about the rules (like the way we remember how each chinese character or kanji is pronounced). Some thais canât remember the tone rules and they use this trick instead. Keep it up, Lindie! You can do this!
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Thai is definitely a language that requires a lot of dedication and motivation to learn. It's more frustrating that there are limited resources available, both free and new, to learn the langauge, and what printed resources are available tend to be dated. When I decided to start learning it, I looked into personal lessons right away because I knew with it being a tonal language, if I relied on self-studying, I wouldn't be able to tell if my pronunciation or intonation with the tones would be correct without someone telling me.
Compared to Korean, Thai is definitely harder is some aspects, especially the alphabet and tone rules. I'm still have moment where I feel I'm still at a beginner level, then when I go back and look at A1 level lessons and realize that I already understand everything from A1 and A2.
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As a Thai person who good at this course during school time đ
I agree that our alphabet and vowel rules are pretty hard to master even for Thai people as there are rules for everything from initial letter, vowel, tone mark ending letter, and each has quite complex rules but the good thing is there is no exception case unlike English. It might looks hard as first when you starting learn to remember alphabet since there are many repetitive sound letters and many have similar looks (common errors for every Thai users), but if you overcome these everything else is easy to understand. To put it simply Thai language is karaoke other languages (almost every words are borrowedđ even my name are borrowed from hindi)
Ps. Your pronunciation was all correctđ and sorry if my english is confusing đ
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As a self motivated Thai learner since Covid started, I can only say that time will be your friend and there will be many A-ha moments along the way. Aside from grammar, I listen to podcasts and now slowly I can begin to describe my own actions in my target language. By the way, your videos have been helpful in continuing my motivation. All the best.
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Nagyon Ă©rdekes, hogy megmutatod, hogyan sajĂĄtĂtasz el egy nyelvet a nullĂĄrĂłl! Köszönet Ă©rte! Ăs azĂ©rt is, hogy megmutatod, mennyire szenvedsz egy-egy dologgal. Sokat jelent az ĆszintesĂ©ged, hogy nem csak azt mutatod meg, mikor mĂĄr folyĂ©konyan beszĂ©lsz egy nyelven.
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And yes the Thai Alphabet is so so so hard!
But I really recommend âRead to Learn Thai in 10 Daysâ it is specifically directed to foreigners. Each chapter comes in digestible batches and the mnemonics for tones and the classes are so so helpful!
AgainâŠ.not managable in 10 days XD I thinkâŠ
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At first it was highly frustrating to learn the alphabets. But when I started being patient and not giving up, I started to have less problems with it. Resources and your own patience are crucial. Donât give up!
Also this yt channel is amazing for grammar : Thai with Mod
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Don't be discouraged, Lindie! At first, Thai also seemed to be the hardest language ever to me, but that was mostly due to the lack of good resources for self-study. I'm an independent-style learner as well, but I eventually gave up and decided to hire a teacher to get me started and it's helped immensely. It was especially hard to read some words because some Thai letters are not pronounced, but are written anyway because of spelling rules. Once you get used to the seemingly impossible alphabet, spelling, and tone rules, it gets easier. Thai grammar is not overly complicated, nor is the vocab. Trust me, learning Thai tone rules is much less complicated than memorizing the pinyin and the tone of every single hanzi or applying all Hungarian cases.
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I swear, each time a language has easy grammar, the script and pronunciation are hard as hell. It's hard to find really good Thai resources, too (especially for free) Love seeing these updates, however! Hope you won't give up and take it easy with Thai :)
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I'm only dabbling in Thai, but you're so right about the alphabet. For the most part, I have it down but it's still pretty hard. I literally spent a few weeks on Drops just doing the consonants until I got it lol
Good luck with your studies!
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You are moving a lot faster than most people who pick up Thai, naturally because you know how to learn a language, so don't worry just keep going. For learning tones I recommend getting a list of short Thai words making columns that have the word, the initial consonant class, the vowel length, the ending sound, and the tone marker, and "calculate" the tone rule in the last column. Do it a lot and the rules become second nature. There are only 18 after all.
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I completed the Dutch Course on Duolingo recently, and your videos have played a goal role in my motivation. Thanks!
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Thank you as always, Lindie! đ I'm planning to start Thai very soon, so can't wait to see how your journey goes. Good luck!
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When I started to learn Thai I learnt the majority of my Thai using TV series and YouTube and so didnât need to read. When I started to learnt how to read, it was a bit easier since I know what the word is supposed to sound like. But donât give up, you can do it! :)
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loving the learning vlogs lindie đđđ
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I'm Thai and i agree that my language is hard lol. I am still learning English and just started German recently. It's hard but I hope you enjoy Thai language journey!:virtualhug: Your pronunciation is on point too i guess because you already have learned Vietnamese before. In my opinion Thai and Vietnamese have similar tone. You can do it Lindie!
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I tried several free resources like you to learn Thai... and after a big migraine, two options: It's too hard for me or I have to change my approach. As I have a bad temper, I hang on but I took the option of 1:1 course on Preply. It's much more comfortable (for me) to have someone explain and correct me. And I found a tutor who speaks both English and French (my native language) so he tries to find "equivalences" for certain pronunciations. I know you have more experience in lingustic learning than I do but the 1:1 lessons could perhaps help you at least for the basics.
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I am a Thai follower and have been following you for years. You were the first polyglot on Youtube I knew and have been helping me explore the fun of learning new languages. Since I am a native user of the Thai language, I cannot say much whether this language is more difficult or not. But one thing I can assure you that once you have a grasp of how to read Thai, which I know could be quite challenging for people who are not used to the Abugida system (plus Thai incorporates tone into it), the next step of understanding how sentence structure in Thai work is not that difficult, it is quite intuitive I would say since the Thai grammar is superfluid. Still, there are a few important things to keep in mind, or I should say these are the fundamentals of how Thai grammar work,
1. Thai is a Topic+commentary language, so itâs not strictly SVO language (kind of like Mandarin)
2. Thai has a serial verb construction feature (to a higher degree compared to Mandarin) which can pretty much string a thought in a super long clause. And that's why there are a lot of highly descriptive compound words in Thai
3. Thai is a super high-context language. (since you are familiar with Japanese and Korean, itâs basically the same concept) so no need to repeat a redundant word and you can just leave out a lot of pronouns, subjects, or whatever if the context is clear.
4.The social hierarchy of Thai language is important, polite language, casual language, formal language etc (kind of the same concept in Korean and Japanese but not as strictly as these 2 languages as Thai is not conjugate level of language to the verbs or nouns but rather use extensive polite words and particles)
Hope you have fun learning Thai and thank you for keep inspiring me to study languages.
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