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Genre: Music
Date of upload: Apr 19, 2024 ^^
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Thanks for sharing pay numbers! To summarize: helping songwriter record demos (3 songs) $100; playing in cover band on the road: $175/gig with travel and lodging paid for; playing in cover bands in Nashville on the Broadway bar scene: $50 per 4-hour set base pay plus tips ($20 per song request is going rate) so another $30-$400 if you have a prime slot like 6-10pm; touring with minor celebrity doing their originals (maybe as opener for bigger act): $250 per gig, $150 per rehearsal, $100 per travel day, plus $50 a day for food (with travel and lodging paid for).
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Great video, I really love the current observations! Joe Lamont here, I played in Nashville either touring or down on Broadway in the off-season from 1990 until about 2016 although I still do occasional gigs with a bunch of other side men in a group called Beaker Street on occasion. I now live in Southern Alabama and as I am 58 years old, I have gone weâre all old piano players go and I work for Royal Caribbean cruise lines as a solo pianist and that pays the bills. When Iâm not on ship, I also play some local gigs just to keep the chops up. My experience in Nashville was overall positive although networking and staying by the phone were prerequisites to making a living, especially before cell phones. I fell into the position of being a sideman during the tour seasons, and then doing three and even sometimes four gigs a day down on Broadway during the winter months. In the early days, it was relatively easy, and I want to stress relatively, to get gigs on the road that paid scale as I was very good friends with a lot of cats that had those gigs and had connections to those gigs. For instance, my last gig was a short run with Justin Moore and I got that gig because I was very good friends with his manager Pete Hartung as we had played in the studio often with a very specific songwriter so we knew each other. So getting those connections I assume is still, extremely important. The chops are a given, you either have them or you donât. But staying with the theme of the video itâs important to make every connection, take cards write down phone numbers, know peoples names and faces and offer to be hopeful when you can. Set a standard with price, especially during studio gigs because it says a lot about you! Make sure youâre solid in every key! Strive to know every tune in your genre under the sun, and even those outside of that genre! But at the same time, find your style and integrated into what you do. I found it very helpful to be stylistic as a piano player, and yet still be able to copy licks when thatâs what the gig demanded. I could say a lot of stuff about Nashville, it has gotten a lot younger, and I have gotten a lot older, in many ways I miss it terribly, the friendships, camaraderie, and memories will last a lifetime! As a sidenote, now that I play on my own and my history was as a sidemen who would occasionally sing harmonies if they needed, I find it interesting that I have to go back through all of my charts and memorize the lyrics now that Iâm the guy who has to handle that! It gives you a whole new perspective on the band leader, and their responsibilities whether it be keeping their voice, healthy, being able to read a crowd, having sense of humor and quick wit will come in handy! It will also keep you sane in the long run! I wish all of those following their own paths through the world is Nashville, success and always remember, keep your nose to the grindstone and rock on!
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Good video. Everything Tim says seems accurate. You have to love it immensely to do this for a living; be young, and have the drive with little owed debt. Tough life. I was blessed to have a great career and always played in bands as I worked while being a family man. I retired at 61 and started playing out a lot more for the love of it. My wife and I live very comfortably. I like to buy vintage guitars, play out with my band, and still go out to jams when I feel like it. And I have been playing in church for 27 years. Life is good, thank you Lord!
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As much as i love it, I'm too old for the Nashville scene.... I'm a weekend warrior down here in Tampa... I have a 4 piece band, me & my piano player have a duo & I do acoustic solo.... solo pays the most 3-4hr sets pays $250 plus tips... I did 4 gigs in 2 days one weekend...I was exhausted and my voice was shot by the last gig, but I made $1200! Duo we make less $350-400 plus tips but it's less pressure on me to carry the whole show usually we'll get $75-100 each in tips.... bands make the least... tons of work, I setup the pa & run sound and I'm the frontman 4hr gigs pay anywhere from $500-800 on average....some private gigs pay more...just booked a 3hr gig for $1500... that all being said I'm a full time truck driver and I make good money so the music is a hobby I get paid to do...great video keep up the good work!
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Hi Tim, this is Yann Quefféléant from Brittany (France). I'm an acoustic and electric guitarist and really liked your first video on Nashville, so went on to the second and third ones - no nonsense yet passion intact, and yes Drop D can be so musical. Obviously not going to try and find a job in Nashville but find your approach so right, like talking to musicians before being able to sit in; it worked great for me during the year I spent in Ireland long ago. Keep going! Cheers, Yann
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I just found you Tim. You are a good speaker. You communicate well in a free form non-stop kind of way. I'm a songwriter and I learned a lot from you in this first vlog. Subscription earned! Look fwd to watching you as this all moves forward. The wall color of your room provides a good reflective light. I like the lo-fi nature of it all.
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I would strongly advise using an accountant to figure your taxes.
Also, if you are traveling, keep at least 1 receipt per day to prove you were traveling. I don't know how much the government currently allows each day but they will reimburse things like mileage and meals.
You can also depreciate your gear.
These are some things that a good accountant will be able to help with.
My last year of playing bars, in 1991, I was making $300 a week. I owed almost $3 thousand to the IRS. But I was able to almost break even with IRS per diem, mileage and gear expenses.
If you are a hired gun, it may be worth your time to set up a business with a separate account. That might save your personal finances if you fall in hard times.
Record EVERYTHING in a ledger or a notebook or in your phone. Gig dates. Travel dates. Business meetings or meals. Gear expenses. EVERYTHING. And keep your receipts. You could scan them into a thumb drive. Before the internet, I had trash bags full of receipts sitting in my apartment, which I seldom got to live in.
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Love this insight into what it's like being a Nashville guitarist. I have been on Broadway eating lunch during that 10 to 2 slot and the groups I saw playing were great! Your video gives a great inside look at what it's like working the Nashville gig scene. Keep up the great work! By the way, I really hit the bell.
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@tuskedbeast
2 days ago
Vicariously interesting, but what really impressed me was that you can string together a communication without those annoying edits. Props, sir.
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