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Date of upload: Apr 7, 2023 ^^
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As a Black woman who has been living in Japan for years now, the colorism is so pervasive. So many "beauty" products have whitening agents in them, and the steps that women take daily to avoid the sun and a tan are...extensiveđ
(e.g. visors, arm guards, parasols, etc.)
And with the hypo/hypersexualization, you'll see tons of Japanese girls and women wearing tiny shorts, skirts, and dresses that barely cover their butts and it's "cute". People barely bat an eye. If I wear anything above the knee, it's "sexy". I am not curvy. I'm built like a prepubescent boy đ but because I'm Black, it's automatically provocative. Don't even get me started on collarbones lol.
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In my early 20s I heard an Asian guy about my age say that he was tired of the model minority stereotype.
As a black man I got mad and almost cussed him out because we were always told growing up to be more like the Asian community because they had their community in order. To hear him say that burst a major bubble for me. I almost yelled out "how about we trade stereotypes".
I know now that their stereotypes can be harmful to them as well.
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As a black man I am very aware of what yall were discussing. Asian and black cultures have always put in a similar reductive generalized space as diametric opposites. Model minorities vs thugs/criminals, pure vs
Sexualized girls, soft boys in kpop vs super machismo you see in rap. Though I hate stereotypes I do like how we borrow from each other's cultures to carve out our own personal niche of expression. The juxtaposition allows people to set where they will be seen by others. Whether it be anime street wear, Asian rappers, or any other examples. I think its cool we can free ourselves from these boxes with outside help.
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Great talk! As a âmixedâ Asian myself, I kind of disagree that all types of asians get lumped under the label âAsianâ, at least in my experience. To most of the people around me growing up, âAsianâ often referred to East Asians (Japanese/Korean/Chinese), and other groups were either referred to by nationality if there was a significant population (in my specific community, it was Indians and Phillipinos),or even just as âbrownâ people (which ranged from people from SEA/Pakistan or other parts of the Middle East. Sometimes even Indians would get lumped in this category).
As someone who is half Chinese and half Nepali, I would often get called âhalf Asianâ (even by East Asians! Not just white people) and it would really bother me. Not sure if this is a common experience though.
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All I have to say about this colorism/classism in the Asian community that "somehow doesn't equal racism" consider this: if there is a perpetual image of darker skin tone people being inferior/lower class...how do you think an entire races that mostly has this skin tone will be viewed by said culture? So yes, it is inherently racist when it comes down it. As they say, colorism walked so racism could run or whatever.
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I really appreciate youse making more distinctions between Asians, like specifying East Asians, South Asians, etc as you talk about this topic to avoid the problem of the "flattening" effect that you discussed.
To be honest, I wish there would have been more discussion about Asian masculinity because I think there is a lot more to discuss than just the last 6 minutes or so, but the disappointment is more coming from the fact that "Asian masculinity" is in the title. I do appreciate that it was brought up at all because it rarely is ever specified, and when it is, it's a pretty shallow discussion, only talking about attractiveness compared to men of other races, both in heterosexual and homosexual spaces, but it never really goes into the possible "why"s and stuff. Rarely do we ever hear about how it might have something to do with why Asian men are overrepresented in the manosphere and stuff or really anything to do with politics. I never heard that being discussed, but found it interesting.
I don't know. It's just nice to be talked about in a setting where we're not being laughed or yelled at, I guess, so thank you, especially because it felt like you talked about Asian men in a way that wasn't like you were talking down to us. I've loved this whole conversation with Olivia, actually. This whole comment was a disorganized mess, so sorry about that to whoever bothered to read this far lol I just woke up like 40 minutes ago
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I love FD and oliSUNvia'S videos, but I find myself often disagreeing with her on certain asian issues.(mind you, I'm filipino-american) There are some bits where she has a shallow understanding. Most asians I've seen do identify with their asianness/ethnicity strongly in america, it is why we have many asian bubbles, aapi and asian cultural clubs in schools. Especially in CA. Also with these conversations between the black and asian community, I think it'd be cool to acknowledge our history of solidarity. Obviously, it's a rocky territory because of colorism, the model minority myth and xenophobia that often divides us. That should be talked about. But as a filipino there's a unique history of black-americans assisting our independence in the philippine american-war and I don't think many black americans know they were heralded as heroes during that time period. I know she can't speak for everyone. Great conversation regardless! All of FD's videos are solid.
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South asian people are going through some stuff too. Indian men are getting made fun of a lot online and honestly the culture from what I've seen makes it a very common asian male issue with sexualization. I definitely had that issue growing up myself and stepping away from that honestly was only easy for me because of good people and my privilege with access to feminist education.
I still have issues with this btw. Still learning.
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As an east asian guy born in Canada, I've also recently thought about why it is that we don't have leftist representation on youtube or why politics is a subject we don't bring up often. I think it has something to do with our cultural drive for the proximity to whiteness, but (something I haven't actually explored) a large part might have to do with the cultural revolution which caused a large chinese diaspora to Hong Kong and elsewhere. So having escaped a traumatic experience like that, it's probably been generationally instilled that leftist values are bad, in favour of status quo liberal/neo-liberal values.
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@cqcbare
1 year ago
"Not being an avatar for your phenotype" is such a great way to critique race identity in America. There's no way to perform race that isn't upholding the racist status quo
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