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Writing good songs requires a lot of practice and experience, but if you don't have that experience it can be hard to know what to practice. Fortunately, most new songwriters tend to make the same sorts of mistakes, especially if you're willing to abstract away some of the details, so today I thought I'd offer some guidance in how to handle what is, I think, one of the most common mistakes of all: Trying to get too clever. It's a really tempting trap, and all of us fall into it at one point or another in our development, but with a little attention to detail, it's really not that hard to get past. You just have to realize you're doing it first.
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"You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, that you never considered whether or not you should."
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There is a saying that goes in the field of industrial design: "A good design is not when there is nothing to add. A good design is when there is nothing to remove." In a nutshell, focus on the desired function.
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âMusic, I feel, must be emotional first and intellectual second.â
- Maurice Ravel
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I was in a composition class a couple of years back, and we were given an assignment to write a song based off of a poem about grief. About half the class ended up doing theirs in a major key and all happy sounding to subvert the expectation of it being grim because it's about grief. Needless to say, only a few of the songs actually worked. This one woman wrote a song that actually built very dramatically in tension before coming to a sudden stop where she turned her focus around to overcome the grief. Sometimes making your work memorable isn't about making it the most unique; it's about making it fit the narrative.
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Silence is an instrument too. Never underestimate the power of simplicity.
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Me not knowing any music theory: Oh this sounds kinda cool, let's put it in.
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The best tip for songwriting I've ever heard is "do it for the song"
Don't try to show off or do something complex just for the sake of complexity.
Complex harmony and technical playing have their place, but a shredy guitar solo isn't necessarily the best in a slow acoustic ballad. And a melodic guitar solo might not be best for the brutal tech death song you're doing.
Everything has its place, so learn where that is and don't force it into somewhere it doesn't fit.
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12Tone: I wrote these series of arpeggios that ran all up and down the coloratura register, never repeating, getting gradually higher and more rhythmically intense throughout the section
Me, a soprano singer: ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL HER???
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Iâm a painter, and you remind me of a tip from a professor. He told me to stop trying to blend in a highlightââlean into it. Tell everyone you know itâs there, and itâs SUPPOSED to be there!â
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"If I tell you the next piece of music you're gonna create will never play on the radio, no one will listen to it, nobody will notice it would you still do it? And if the answer is anything but a clear 'yes', then you shouldn't." - Steve Vai
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That ad was SOOOO smooth.
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So my grandfather is a classical violinist who played in the BBC SSO.
I remember, as a kid, playing him a melody I'd written on the piano.
I remember starting to feel a little embarrassed halfway through and apologising to him as I realised that what I'd written wasnt . . . Very . . . 'Clever' (I was put through, and passed my ABRSM grade 5 music theory at about 11 years old? My mum is also a classically trained musician so music as an academic pursuit was a big thing in my family).
He gave me some of the best advice I've ever heard.
He said, "dont apologise - write the music that sounds good - that's you're starting point. Some of the greatest pieces of music ever written started with very simple, but very beautiful ideas. Simple can be good - do more with less".
That's when I realised that writing music is a case of . . . Be clever if you want, but only if it serves, and doesnt detract from, the music.
You can be clever and end up with good music - but you have to be very careful about how you do it.
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"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
- What every musician needs to hear at some point
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Radiohead is a great example of complex theory implemented into songs without being forced. Theyâll do the craziest rhythms and chords and itâs all because the song needed it
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me, writing on my piano: every diatonic chord besides the tonic NEEDS to be at LEAST a 7/maj7/min7
me, when presenting my ideas to the group: yeah... maybe not
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Great video. I always say, "Everything in service to the song." If it doesn't serve the song - and the type of song it is within its genre - then it goes. No part of the song, including the vocals, should be viewed as an end in and of itself. Everything is a means to an end - the song.
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Deciding to use one of your own works to exemplify the mistakes one can make when arranging pieces of music instead of choosing someone else's, is an incredibly generous act of your part that speaks very highly of you. This is one of the reasons I love your channel.
Also, I love the concept of hand-drawn images matched to your voice and it always makes me wonder how you came about with that concept for your videos and how you actually execute it. I imagine you first record your voice and then play it back and pause it every now and then to make a drawing that matches each sentence while filming your hand, and then edit it. Nevertheless, it's a very cute, simple yet incredibly awesome concept.
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âExperienced songwriters arenât just being clever for the fun of it...â
MF DOOM laughs maniacally
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I've been thinking about this a lot lately! One example from my own endeavours: I had this really nice melody, and it was pretty simple: almost all stepwise motion and basically just straight crotchets with the odd triplet. But it was only the first 8 bars of what needed to be a 16 bar melody, so I added this whole new bit with a ton of fancy syncopations and octave leaps, and I thought it was great until I listened all the way through and realised that the second half sounded completely incoherent. So I replaced it with a barely altered repetition of the first half, and guess what? It worked better like that.
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