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Crop Circles can fail to find a card, because the requirement is only checked at the time of activation. You opponent can respond with a Runick Quick Spell and banish cards from the top of your deck, so that Crop Circles fails to find an Alien card. Another possibility would be when your opponent chains Free-Range Monsters to Normal Summon Deep Sea Diva to Special Summon Guitar Gurnards Duonigis which also banishes cards from your deck in your turn.
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Ah YGO, the only (popular) game that either requires perfect memory or actual psychic powers as a rule.
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In Pokémon you're always allowed to fail a search for a specific card even if both players know that you have a valid target in your deck because the contents of your deck are private information. But you actually can't fail a search if a card tells you to search for any card (as long as there are cards remaining in your deck). Much more intuitive.
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Crop circle is the weirdest anomaly in this game, and that's saying a lot.
It's like the person who designed it didn't know the ruling about needing a valid target to activate a search effect.
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There are quick-play spells (like Runicks) that can banish/get rid of cards from your deck potentially getting rid of your search target. I don't see any issues with it unless it's the time when the trap exists before any way to get rid of your search target.
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IIRC, back in the day, if you failed to find a target, you needed to allow your opponent to look at the card pool you were looking in as proof.
That, or that's how most pre master duel simulators read that rule. I remember how many times the opponent (or me) had to deck reveal because of white stone of legends.
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Dude that would suck being accused of cheating because i dudnt realize im out of 1500 atk earth momsters or something.
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The rule used to force you to reveal your entire deck when you failed to search, and this rule actually came up quite often whenever pot of desires came out. Originally, you weren't able to view cards banished face down, so if you used desires and drew into a ROTA, you couldn't know if you could activate the ROTA until you did a potentially illegal activation.
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In case anyone is confused as to why Magic players are so confused/upset by this concept:
In MtG you have to declare all targets and pay all costs before you put an ability (or effect) onto the stack. This appears to be roughly the same as YGO.
However, if the ability causes you to do something in a hidden zone (usually your library, your hand, or face down cards) you can declare that you "failed to find" and the ability resolves as much as possible.
The trick is, of course, that MtG doesn't design cards that don't work if the player fails to find. If your ability searches your library for a "Forest", then it's always in a way where it's better for you to find a "Forest" card than not. If an effect exiles all your opponent's "Counterspell"s from their hand it's written in such a way that you check your opponent's hand and exile any number of cards named "Counterspell".
You can choose to only exile two of them even though there are three if you want (i.e. "fail to find" a third one), but that's almost always a bad decision.
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I appreciate these videos for sure. Especially as a very small format. I mean yeah master duel does all the stuff automated and that's nice but it is cool to know why things work the way they do
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Looking through the card rulings section on yugipedia is always fun
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There's a card I think is called "miracle draw" or "wish draw" something like that but it searches monster that it's ATK+DEF must equal your current life points what if you already have a target in mind but then your opponent chain poison of the old for example to inflict 800 effect damage so your LP changes so you lose your search target (unless you find a new one) technically "negating" your search
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reminds me of duelingbook duels where people commonly go "oh wait i forgot i don't have any more "archetype monster/card" to special summon/add"
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This is like cards as There Can Be Only One and Gozen Match/Rivalry of Warlords that can see the future and knowing what you are trying to summon even before you knowing it
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Oh, you failed to search an Alien? Here, fail harder. -2000
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Then you have Card of the Soul being specifically worded that the search is an optional secondary action after you look through your deck, because the search targets are so goddamn random and unpredictable with that thing
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There's actually another way to activate a search effect without having any targets. Mandatory search effects like Spellbook Magician of Prophecy (blue boi) MUST activate when their condition is met. If you normal summon blue boi without any targets in your deck, his effect will still activate, regardless of whether you have any searchable targets or not.
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One of simple rules that i often forget is when a card that specify cost return card to hand, didnt come to hand (eg: extra deck monster), the effect will not resolve. I miss play a lot when i am new with salaman deck.
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But I remember using this card and lost 2000
"I didn't have any alien monsters in the build of the deck in the first place"
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@IzzyTheFay
7 months ago
I remember in some world championship DS games where if there is no target you show your entire deck to your opponent to prove there is no target. Definitely think that’s a valid penalty for a fail search because let’s face it the not everyone will remember every card with out checking grave/banish piles
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