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It’s also worth noting that it’s really expensive to retro fit office buildings into housing. Partly for the things he mentioned which are silly but partly for other structural reasons. For example hvac and plumbing. Suddenly you need a lot more of both. None of this is impossible. But it’s expensive. Meaning that retro fitting just doesn’t make sense unless real estate costs are super high. Typically it’s cheaper and easier to demolish the office building and build an apartment complex
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"We stand in our own way."
This is true of nearly everything nowadays.
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One serious issue to 're-purposing' is it costs WAY more than 'new build' for the same square footage. It is actually cheaper to do full demolition and start over than it is to 'retro-fit'. Just think about it for a moment. What does each residence have? Dedicated bathroom spaces (that requires different plumbing, grey water, and sewage setups), dedicated food storage and preparation spaces (again different plumbing and grey water setups, more electric and potentially natural gas), Ingress and egress different layouts means fire/emergency evacuation is different, HVAC different, electrical distribution and tracking for billing is different, etc. etc. the list just goes on and on. I volunteered for a charity that was looking at doing exactly this to provide for some homeless veteran housing. It didn't take long before they just abandoned the effort because, as I warned them, the math simply doesn't add up.
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My problem is that they’re building tons of new apartment complexes in my city but none of them are actually affordable rent. They charge the almost the same amount for a studio that they do for bigger apartments. Meanwhile most normal jobs don’t pay enough to rent your own studio. You have to have roommates or find a private affordable rental.
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MEP engineer here, retrofitting the electric HVAC and plumbing is a significant hurdle that generally requires a gut and complete redesign of these systems. it's a lot more than simple red tape. the window rules are in place to help be more energy efficient.
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Man, I hate it so much! I live in a big city and the housing situation is crap, prices are through the roof and there's sooo many applicants foe each place, the demand is crazy... And yet we have all these huge office buildings that stand empty for YEARS! AND they keep building more! And anytime housing is built, most of it is these crazy luxury apartment nobody can afford.
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plumbing.. it's the plumbing. You need a lot more drains and water lines in an apartment building. that plus the windows make it very costly to retrofit an office building. Eventually if housing continues to climb, this will eventually become cost effective, but at that point it's not doing anything to reduce the issue
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I lived in one of the office buildings converted into apartments in downtown Dallas over 4 years ago. Initially it looked nice but really it was a nightmare especially during COVID. There was only 1 window and it could not open. The window also faced another office building right next to it so no real sunshine came in. It always appeared like night. I grew depressed real fast not really getting to go out anywhere during 2020. I moved out as soon as my lease was up for a place in the burbs.
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I spoke to a multifamily GP recently about this topic. He said an office area typically has one VAV per open area. If it converted, each room would need to be re-ducted with HVAC. Also, most office buildings have 2 to 4 centrally located restrooms. It would take a massive amount of re-plumbing to add individual bathrooms. This plumbing would have to be increased all the e at it the sewer. Lastly, the electrical infrastructure is too weak for several appliances per unit.
The developer would need to buy the property for pennies on the dollar (or in some instances be paid to take the building).
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What I see are tons of mostly empty, relatively new apartment buildings. They are extremely expensive and people I've met who live in them say they are poorly managed, the appliances break and generally move out within a year. There is a huge push to keep building more, to the point that they are tearing down historical landmarks in my city. The mess is so much bigger than a lack of housing. It's a lack of affordable, desirable, properly build and managed housing.
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On the window distance: Germany has that also for offices. That's why the few skyscrapers in Germany are either skinny (Frankfurt Fair Tower) or have space in the middle for light (Commerzbank Tower).
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It’s doable and being done in DC but unfortunately the cost is high and you guessed it - the neediest ones are not who are moving into them. Developers and investors of those prime office building projects are looking to convert to condos or high-end luxury apartments.
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When I was looking for a place (UK) I looked at a converted office building. The perks were a communal gym and a concierge.
And while you could open the windows the cons however were... Good luck getting any large furniture into the apartment via the narrow hallways. All bedrooms relied upon borrowed light windows at the tops of the walls. The lounges/living rooms were along the windows with a combined kitchen.
These things were not meant for living in especially with families. They were meant for occasional eating and sleeping in but the rest of the time spent out. Would have been better to demolish it and build something purpose built. Probably would have cost the same even with the perks.
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Absolutely agree! Shopping malls as well.
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Calgary does this. They converted quite a few offices into apartments with great success.
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Could make it illegal for investment firms and companies to buy housing properties…. This would lower prices and free up more properties to homeowners
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As somebody who did live for 2 years in an apartment where the kitchen had no access to a window. IT IS ABSOLUTELY NESSISARY to have a window. You not only need the bad air escaping but fresh air entering.
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Thank you! Well said.
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Some of these questions are ones I've been examining pretty seriously for a while. Thanks for sharing your thinking!
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@vultureculture7707
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Don't get me wrong, most safety regulations were written in blood. However, regulations and laws need to be periodically updated to account for new needs and new technologies.
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