@AkmalSultan-my7fc

6 months ago

Do you know whats funny, some quotes here havent even been given a reference. But lets say they were actually authentic, all they were doing is doing ithbaat of Alal Arsh Istawa. If they said that Allah is literally above the throne, this would mean Allah has a Makan. Qadi Abu Ya’la al-Hanbali says, “Indeed, Allah Most High is not to be described with [residing in a] place.” (Daf’ Shubah al-Tashbih, P: 43). In fact, Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal said in Ibn Hamdans Aqidah treatise, that "Allah is without jism, he is not an Arad or Jawhar...." and he continues to even say that "Allah is without place(makan), because he created place, and he is as he was before creating place." Imam Tahawi said Allah is not conatined in a place and he is not in a Hadd, and none of the directions contain him. Imam Abu Hanifah said in Al-Fiqh Al-Absat, that “If it is asked, ‘Where is Allah?’ It will be said to him that Allah Most High existed when there was no place, before creating the creation. And Allah Most High existed when there was no ‘where’, no creation, nothing; and He is the Creator of everything.” (Al-Fiqh al-Absat, P: 21). As for the slave-girl Hadith it is an ahad narration, so how can it be gaken for Aqidah. And if it was Sahih, Imam Nawawi gave a good explanation under it: This is one of the "hadiths of attributes" and there are two positions about it as it was mentioned in the book of faith, First: is to have faith in it "Without discussing its meaning, while believing of Allah Most High that "there is nothing whatsoever like unto Him"and that He is exalted above having any of the attributes of His creatures. ''The second is to FIGURATIVELY EXPLAIN IT" in a fitting way, scholars who hold this position adduce that the point of the hadith was to ''test the slave girl : Was she a monotheist"who affirmed that the Creator, the Disposer, the Doer, is Allah alone and that He is the one called upon when a person making supplication (du'a) faces the sky--just as those performing the prayer (salat) face the Kaaba, since the sky is the qibla of those who supplicate, as the Kaaba is the qibla of those who perform the prayer. or was she a worshipper of the idols which they placed in front of themselves? So when she said, In the sky, it was plain that she was not an idol worshipper(Sahih Muslim bi Sharh al-Nawawi, Volume No.5, Page Nos. 19-20, Published by Dar ul Fikr, Beirut, Lebanon)" and Nawawi also continues, and says "THESE AND SIMILAR TEXTS CANNOT BE TAKEN LITERALLY, RATHER THEY ARE TO BE EXPLAINED WITH INTERPRETATION." And you accuse us of being innovators when Imam Nawawi here proves the use of Tafweed and Ta'weel. Unless you think An-Nawawi was a bid'ati.

Let me finish my point off with the Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, under the verse of Istawa:

Then He did Istawa (As it befits His Majesty) upon the Throne"} People have "TOO MANY POSITIONS ON THIS MATTER AND THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO PRESENT THEM AT LENGTH" [فللناس في هذا المقام مقالات كثيرة جداً ليس هذا موضع بسطها] On this point, we follow the position of the righteous early Muslims (Salaf) i.e. Imam Malik, Imam al-Awza‘i, Imam Sufyan ath-Thawri, Imam Layth ibn Sa‘d, Imam ash-Shaf’i, Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, Imam Ishaq ibn Rahawayh, as well as others among the Imams of the Muslims, past and present—(namely) "TO LET IT PASS AS IT HAS COME WITHOUT SAYING HOW IT IS MEANT"[، وهو إمرارها كما جاءت من غير تكييف], without any resemblance (to created things), and without nullifying it (wa la ta‘til):"THE OUTWARD (LITERAL)" meaning that comes to the minds of anthropomorphists is negated of Allah[والظاهر المتبادر إلى أذهان المشبهين منفي عن الله] for nothing created has any resemblance to Him: {"There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him, and He is the All-hearing, the All-seeing" (Qur’an 42:11)} [Tafsir Ibn Kathir Under 7:54]

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