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The hard problem of consciousness and surrounding issues are being taken seriously by serious philosophers, yet the comment section seems to think there is no issue here.
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Alex: "Where the hell is the triangle?!"
- Plato has entered the chat...
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The 'triangle' (or rather the data that makes up the triangle) is still there even without a screen. That data is then just mapped onto something that we can perceive. So yes when you 'cut open' a computer, you will find what it is displaying on the screen. Assuming by 'cut open' you mean taking a look at what is happening 'under the hood'.
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I'm part of your comments section and my opinions are garbage.
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Dude, include a link to the full video when you do these clips.
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Your brain is essentially a java runtime compiler.
Riddle solved.
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'Is an image of a pineapple a real pineapple?' - Taskmaster.
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Well when there is a visible triangle outside of your body what youre actually seeing is the projection created in your consiousness. The light reflected off the triangle is received by your eyes and transmitted through nerves to the brain and you're perceiving this electrical impulse somehow.
So like somebody already commented you can recreate the electrical impulses by means other than seeing an actual triangle to achieve the same result.
It's just still a mystery how exactly this works. But there is no proof and need for a non-materialistic explanation
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The mind is a manifestation of a physical state, the triangle is there as an arrangement of synapses being on and off.
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hey, at least we have hundreds of experts in the comment section to explain it
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1. Eat orange
2. Taste buds send electric signals to brain
A. Remember eating orange
B. Brain replicates electric signals of the original experience
Repeating 1-2 improves the fidelity of A-B (adjusted by the settings of your hardware: Gustatory Aphantasia <-> Gustatory Hyperphantasia)
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The answer to this question is that the triangle does not exist as a triangle. Even when displayed on the screen it is just a pattern of light and darkness. This argument requires that the triangle have some essence such that it really exists in your mind or in a computer, but it doesnât.
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This is like saying video games = credible refutation of materialism. If you cut into a GPU you're not going to find <video game object>, you're going to find <GPU hardware and components>. Exact same thing.
If you understand how the GPU represents a triangle to the monitor and can de-code that, and have the time to spend looking across the transistors to find where the triangle is being generated, you would physically be able to do so. I believe that this is what people mean when they say the triangle you're speaking of can be reduced to a place in the brain. It's not a triangle in your brain, it is the code for how a triangle is represented to your conscious awareness.
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Consciousness is the ability to sense stimuli and respond to it. A pulley has a rudimentary form of consciousness. A plant, more complex, with more capability to sense and respond to stimulus, has a more complex form of consciousness. A human, whose mind is extremely complex with the ability to sense stimulus, respond to it, recreate it in a controlled virtual environment (which is created by the process of sensing and responding to stimulus itself), respond to it, etc. has a yet more complex form of consciousness. There's no reason to believe consciousness is anything other than the processes that can fundamentally be boiled down to stimulus and response in patterns of varied complexity.
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My senses are just signals to the brain. If I can replicate those signals, like the signals you get when you see a triangle in real life, I can picture that same triangle as if it were there without it actually being there. That is called imagination, and it's a completely material experience. The big question is, why am I aware at all? Why can I know I'm aware? We know we are aware, but we don't understand how that works, even if everything is telling us that it's the product of a certain arrangement of atoms, which everything that we know so far is telling us that.
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I liked Penroseâs question concerning consciousness. He asks something like, âWhat is that thing recognizing truth? What is the thing that sees reality versus non-reality?â
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There are various phenomena that âemergeâ from existing matter. For instance, the physical property of having mass leads to the emergent phenomenon of the gravitational force.
For some reason many people find it necessary to say that these emergent phenomena are âimmaterialâ or attribute some other mysterious word to them.
Certain physical configurations of the brain, and biochemical reactions within it, lead to the phenomenon of conscious experience and visualization. These physical configurations and biochemical reactions are necessary preconditions to make these things happen. Saying the experiences are âimmaterialâ is just metaphysical âwoo wooâ and has no explanatory value.
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This feels exactly like a god of the gaps argument that you should recognise immediately. We donât âseeâ triangles, our brain interprets electric signals. Thereâs no reason those signals canât be reproduced using memory.
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You need to interview Benardo Kastrup on your podcast.
Would be amazing!
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@pierrot-baptistelemee-joli820
6 months ago
Unplug the computer screen and you have the same situation. You know there is the concept of a triangle in the computer since you just saw it on the screen. But without the screen, where does that triangle go? Well with the computer, we know itâs there as a complex sequence of binaries that are probably stored as physical little switches that are either <<on>> or <<off>> somewhere in the computerâs physical hardware.
Why would it be so hard to imagine the same thing happens with the human brain? The triangle is nearly certainly somewhere inside the brain, physically encoded through complex electrical impulses that we are not yet able to decode. But had we that knowledge of precisely how the brain encoded information, we could probably display that information on some kind of screen, like we do with computers. I donât find that hard to imagine at all.
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