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I would say pump. The pump is probably moving more water through the coil, exposing more thermal mass per second to the heat-source
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So many different variables here... im leaning towards the 12 v pump side but the 1/2 inch has quite a bit more volume potential.
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Which is more efficient...
Round or Square?
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Also don't breathe copper fire fumes!
(looked at loads of comments, no mention of these)
Prefer Thermosiphon.
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Pump will heat up faster, but for usefulness I would have to go with thermosiphon
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Well the direct flame on the copper coil with the pump is going to conduct a lot quicker but the larger coil on the outside on the thermal does it more surface you know I really don't know it would be interesting to find out I think it would be pretty similar
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I used this same technique on my house hot side system. With a pump copper tube criss crossed on roof with a solarpump 365 24/ 7 hot water no grid energy involved. self contained point of use also consider few newtons of heat you accumulate from circulation friction.
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Step by step development! Wow!
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The outside copper coil will heat up slower, but the inside copper coil will deteriorate faster (which makes it an inferior solution).
Now if you were to place a stainless steel enclosure around the inner coil so that it won't directly be subjected to exhaust products, that would be a better long term solution.
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The thermosiphon will heat the water faster because the stove with the pump only has 53 cubic ins. of water in the coil, whereas the thermosiphon has 183 cubic ins. of water in its coil. Thus, the thermosiphon is heating up more than three times the volume of water than the other stove in the same amount of time.
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I would go with all metal , plastic parts I hope are experimental. Smart Idea . Free energy
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the one with the pump..but i like the 2nd one! No electricity, bette4 design (copper outside the furnace, with insulation) Much cleaner, longer lasting!
i have a couple suggestions for the 2nd one π
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The first one gets 1000c all around and 2nd one gets 450c heat transfer to the pipe . It's wrapped but water inside cools it down on the other side so 1st one gets 50% surface area at 1000C and 50% at 500C. The 2nd gets 50% surface area at 450-600C and other 50% of it at lower temp let's say 300C. The 1st one wines but will leek sooner
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Direct heat with pump flow will recirculate faster and bring the system to thermal steady state equilibrium.
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Definitely the 2nd one. You should remove some of the steel pipes wall thickness on a lathe or something. Would make it lighter in weight and the coil would get heat transfer more efficiently. If you reduced the pipe thickness by 50%, it should still be strong enough and not melt. You're on to something.... keep going strong with your ideas.
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Will considering you have more water volume in the pipe in a taller stove pipe that enforces convection a lot higher a lot quicker I would say the one on the right that has the longer copper tubing that has the bigger diameter
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This is the content I need
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Cool video
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1/2-inch and the 2nd one will heat up more and the siphon operation will heat up as expansion will increase water temp.
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Definitely the thermosiphon, because it moves the wayer past the heat slower ut more efficiently.
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@sentinel9046
5 months ago
To eliminate variables, You should do a direct comparison with each stove setup with the same thermosiphon, same staring temp H2O, same grade of wood, etc. Same size coil etc. Then change 1 variable at a time to understand the effects of control variables.
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