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He's absolutely correct. He has a few dates wrong but he is overall correct.
But maybe he summarized too harshly.
There were 5 heads of the one Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. Each head stemmed from one of the Apostles. Pope of Rome - saint Peter. Pope of Alexandria (Coptic) - Saint Mark, patriarch of Constantinople- Saint Andrew, patriarch of Jerusalem: st James. Etc.
The copts or coptic Orthodox Church left after the council of chalcedon. That was in the 4th century!! That left Rome and Constantinople together - chalcedon was over the Nature Of Christ. But the argument was more political than theological.
Then Rome decided to excommunicate the Greeks or patriarch of Constantinople in 1054. That was over the filoque.
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I would advise all to not believe a word that this man says about early church history and go study for yourself. The original church had the 12 Apostles... the 5 patriarchs developed after a few decades. Also, there was no office of Pope in the church; the word simply means father, so many can be considered early church fathers (popes) without being tied to Rome.
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Wrong the Original Church had only 3 Petrine Sees, Rome, Alexandria and Antioch. there was no Patriarch in Constantinople for the time of the First Council of Nicea, The Council was held in Nicea because it was a city close to Bizantium where Constantine was making remodelations to made it Constantinople, And there was not a strong church in Jerusalem since the Destruction made by Titus in the 70AD. The aerrian Heresy had to be addressed in the East in the Churches of the East because the Eastern Christians were very Phillosophically especulative on the Christina Doctrine, Meanwhile in the West All the Christians were alligned to the bishop of Rome, ike the Churches of Lyon in Galia (France) and Toledo or Cordova in Hispania (Spain). In fact the First Council of Nicea was presided by the Legate of the Bishop of Rome Saint Ocius, Bishop of Cordova Spain.
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This is, ironically, a very western understanding of what it meant to be an early Church Patriarch, Pope and Archbishop. There is only one head of the Church, Jesus Christ, and these five figures he outlines were only the most pre-eminent of all the Bishops in Christendom. In order for something to be established as faith, all the Bishops needed to decide communally to do so. This is why there are so many Councils, both Christendom-wide and regional, in the 1st millennium. When Bede wanted to settle the date of Easter with Celtic Christians in Britain, he called a council of British bishops to do so. When Constantine wanted to establish the Creed, he does so by calling a council. The Eastern Orthodox faith still does this, but what makes Casagranda’s definition very western is that the Roman Catholic Church and some of those who split from it argue for a single decision maker. In the RCC, the Pope has infallibility with doctrine. Indeed, one of the reasons for the schism of East and West is that the Orthodox argued the filioque had not been established by a Council, whereas the Pope claimed authority as the successor of St Peter to insert it into the Nicene Creed. If Casagranda wants to break out of the western mindset he needs to change his definitions here
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When he says “the original church had…” the timeframe is tough. Original to me is the church Christ founded and left to the Apostles to organize…not the church when they had 5 patriarchs. Now it is true that the church was “built” so even the original structure, and even the liturgy of the Eucharist for example, changed. Structure changed. And this was part of the building of Christs church. But there seemed to be an acknowledgment of the early church fathers in the first hundred years of the church that Rome was special…. I can’t seem to shake that from my historical research. I also struggle because when I look at how the Russian orthodox treats the Ukrainian orthodox I cannot help but think “man, orthodoxy needs a pope that the churches respect”. It’s very evident the Split of those churches that the idea first among equals failed. But I also acknowledge that there is fracture inside the Catholic Church. Really nice video series. Gives me some things to think about.
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@jbp122
2 weeks ago
This man just makes things up
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