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Joseph Smith taught that babies will reign on thrones as babies into eternity. In the King Follett Discourse, Joseph Smith taught that babies will remain babies in the resurrection. Many Latter-day Saints disagreed with Smith's teachings—to include several later LDS Prophets and Apostles.
Check out Smith's King Follett Discourse to learn more. It was Joseph's most famous and controversial General Conference sermon, and he claimed that the truthfulness of the King Follett Sermon would determine if he was a true or false prophet.
Be sure to check out our FULL video on the King Follett Discourse!
If you're curious to learn more about the LDS Church's reception of the King Follett Discourse, it's history, controversies, and textual notes - check out William V. Smith's book - "The King Follett Sermon: A Biography".
If you want to learn more about the KFD, check out this article by Mormonism Research Ministry: mrm.org/kfd
All quotes come from Stan Larson's Amalgamated KFD text.
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Ex Mormon here. I never thought of this. I did know the mothers get to reunite with their children who have passed. But because of resurrection, I always thought they would have adult bodies. This sounds like vampire babies. Grown up brains, but child bodies. I pray for Mormons that they see the giant lie that is the church.
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That sounds hellish for the child!
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Joseph Smith preached the King Follett Discourse in April 1844 to defend his claim as a true prophet. He said if the content of the sermon wasn’t true, then he was a false prophet. In the sermon, he took the age old question, “ what happens to babies after they die?” and put a unique and bizarre twist on it. One of the more disturbing parts of his sermon is the assertion that the spirit or intellect of a human is eternal and coequal with God.
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Joseph is plain nuts, how did he get so many unthinking people to follow him?? It's sad to see so many blindly following him as their parents did, as their parents did... 😢
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I remember being told this but it never made sense. Hearing it today highlighted the Thousands of Thrones! Omgosh I can’t be the only one whom is concerned about this?
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Wow! This is the first time I’ve heard this one. Can you provide the reference? I want to tuck it in with my collection.
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Pp small
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Joe was just saying whatever popped into his head he thought his listeners wanted to hear?
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Quite the imagination
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😂
Lunacy, nonsense, & bull
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‘Maybe he got this one wrong’ -Then he was never a prophet!
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Nothing compared to God literally writing Psalm 137:9, if we presuppose inerrancy.
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Ironically, I believe they do have the same level of intelligence as joe.
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What a crazy liar that guy Joseph smith! Garden of Eden in Missouri! 😅 babies don’t grow in heaven, false false! If you listen to some NDEs babies do grow u
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Defining the words of a prophet is best done by a prophet.
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This makes sense when you consider that this religion is man-made, and that Mormons believed that families will be redeemed together. The assumption is that the mother and father would continue to aid the perfectly sentient child throughout all of eternity. While that may have pleased, many young mothers who lost their children, it doesn’t do anything for the individual or for the person who does not want to spend eternity caring for a child! I think it’s safe to believe the pretty much opposite of whatever Mormons believe in their apostate religion.
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Joseph got everything wrong in his fashioning of Freemasonry into fictional Mormonism. He was a pure genius and steeped in Kabbalah and solomonic magic.
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You've misinterpreted or misunderstood...
Babies die, and in the hereafter, their spiritual bodied are as they were when they were laid in their graves.
Because babies are without sin, they are not judged. Because there is no judgment, there is no condemnation.
Because there is no condemnation, innocent and sinless babies receive their exaltation. (Latter-Day Saints totally reject all aspects of original sin, or the need for infant babtism.)
All this happens after the resurrection, and only after bodies and souls are reunited.
Only then can the physical bodies of babies resume growing to maturity, just like they were when they were here on earth.
Worthy mothers and fathers are to be reunited with their lost babies and without a hair of their heads missing.
Would God be truly loving and merciful if it were any other way?
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This makes sense when you consider that this religion is man-made, and that Mormons believed that families will be redeemed together. The assumption is that the mother and father would continue to aid the perfectly sentient child throughout all of eternity. While that may have pleased, many young mothers who lost their children, it doesn’t do anything for the individual or for the person who does not want to spend eternity caring for a child! I think it’s safe to believe the pretty much opposite of whatever Mormons believe in their apostate religion.
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2 months ago
Oh wow. I remember as a Mormon being told that in heaven mothers would get to raise their children who had died. But not this! Yikes. Thanks Bradley!
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