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You expect me to believe you, a history teacher, over the acclaimed documentary The Godfather Part II?
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I once knew a guy whose family's last name was Leonardo and they changed it to Leotardo. He was also the Shah of Iran.
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My name was changed when I landed in Toronto in 1990. So, I will continue to believe that people's names were garbled, misspelled, just outright anglicized a hundred years ago on Ellis Island. It took me a year to get my name back.
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Excuse me? My grandfather came to this country from Greece. His family name was Rofagolis. At Ellis Island, they recorded his name as Rallis. That was his name, legally, for the remainder of his life.
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My great grandmother and her family arrived from Ireland in 1887. They were processed at Castle Gardens on the southern tip of Manhattan. This was 5 years BEFORE Ellis Island was even opened. Their last name was Leane. The immigration official wrote all the documents using 'Lane' as their last name. It is not hard to imagine the same thing happening at Ellis Island 5 years later.
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If you have ever visited Ellis Island and read the plaques, you will see that YES names were sometimes misspelled or misunderstood, and YES names did actually change there. Go visit. It's a really interesting place. You will learn about vaccinations, sponsorship, immigration, history, the train station, the hospitals, and quarantine and a lot more that would surprise you
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You have an impressive amount of faith in the ability of government bureaucrats to never misread unfamiliar names in unfamiliar handwriting, and to not misspell anything themselves on top of that. I guess immigration processing centres are more low-stress environments than we give them credit for.
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One guy on the internet saying ‘you’re all wrong!’ doesn’t make him right.
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Except we do have some records where the ships manifest and the Ellis Island records have altered spellings. Such as a Callaghan to Callahan.
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Intentionally. Names have been accidentally changed due to agents transposing letters when copying those manifests. It happens even now. Any employee at a large company can test this by finding a "Fnu" (First Name Unknown) or "Lnu" (Last Name Unknown) in their company directory. That occurs when a person's full name is entered into one line on their work visa leaving either the other line blank.
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A neighbor from across the street had this happen to him personally. He only spoke Italian, and a dialect that was hard to understand. The ship’s paperwork was incomplete, and his name (along with others) was missing. His name Bianca, but the processing person couldn’t make it out. He pointed to a white shirt and then white paper, so his name was written down as White.
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>makes a completely wrong point
>people clown on you
>you respond "fair point"
>video stays up
????????
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Yeah, sorry. You are wrong. This is a story from my great-grandfather himself, and back in the 80s/90s I visited Ellis Island and actually saw the log book ( back when you could actually take a tour and see the real logs, now you can see the digitized books online). I saw the actual logs where my Great-great Uncle came through as Manuel Almeida de Abreu (of Abreu). And his name became Manuel deAbreu. My great-grandfather came through a few years later, identified his uncle as a relative currently in the US, and his last name immediately became deAbreu. Amazing how he has the same middle name as his uncle.
Maybe, just maybe, the Godfather 2 based that scene on some form of reality.
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Many immigrants intentionally changed their own names to sound more "American" and less foreign. It would give you a leg up, they thought. I have a reverse situation of this in my family tree. My grandmother's family was Missouri French, settling in Missouri around 1720. After the Louisiana Purchase (1803) and a horde of Anglos moved into the area, they changed their French name "Partenais" to "Partney." It was all about keeping up with the Jones. 😅
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I visited Ellis Island in the seventies, the Park Ranger who gave the tour told us that in fact immigrants were given different names by the inspectors of immigration.
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Never underestimate the bureaucratic shortcut. Typos, intentional shortenings, and managerial oddities will always always be a major factor. A blanket denial of a pretty prevalent oral history is simply arrogant callousness. The "myth" may be overblown but the glut of anicdotal oral testimony and the long history of bureaucratic corner cutting dispute it being a falsehood.
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My great grandfather's name was changed but he didn't come through Ellis Island. His last name was Polimeni and it was changed to Pullman. He died when I was 2 and my dad knew him well so it's not just family mythology. All his official papers say Pullman but an immigrant from Calabria was no Pullman. He was very upset about it being changed and always said his name was Polimeni and wrote it on his front door.
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I had a college professor named Gilgulin. According to him it was shortened to that from Gilgulineskovitch by an Irish official at Ellis Island. Instead of labeling all the family stories about name changes as myths, maybe recognize that just writing something down doesn’t make it true.
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Yes, Ellis Island absolutely *DID* change names. The change occurred not when immigrants decided to change their names on the boats coming over; it was changed, in a legally-supported sense, when those names were RECORDED into the roles at Ellis Island. My family was one of those who did this.
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What other myths in American history just don't seem to go away?
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