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People in Russia do not miss communism per se, they simply fell society went too far in the other way. My mom, who's like a hardline tankie, always told me something like "why didn't we do something more like China, or like Europe?" They recognise Soviet socialism was not a good way to run society, they just think the alternative isn't also good
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good point JJ however, we have to acknowledge the amount of these countries that were directly destabilized by American military intervention and espionage, especially when it comes to regimes in South America and Africa, American intervention directly opposed the will of the people and put regimes in power that would work in their interests. especially when they try to nationalize their industry.
it's beyond well documented, it's a cliché at this point. I know you focus more on the culture side of things, but it's good to acknowledge that in a lot of these places that culture was forced upon them.
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I encountered this across the balkans. Everyone had this nostalgia that life was better back during the Yugoslav days. "You could be a Montenegran Christian and your neighbor was a Bosnian Muslim, it didn't matter back then. You were all Slavs!" They all universally seemed to agree that they want to be one country of Yugoslavia again. "But ONLY if Serbia is not in charge again!"
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The case of South Africa is very unique. The whole world (well, the decent people) rallied behind the ANC and Mandela because we understood Apartheid was too brutal and extreme to let it continue.
The problem is that the ANC has been so incompetent and so corrupt that a lot of people (and not only white people) are wondering if it was worth it. Today South Africa doesn't have electricity and its murder rate is the highest in Africa (worse than poorer countries and even higher than Mexico), so I can totally understand if people are wondering if all the fight against Apartheid was worth it.
I am in no way defending Apartheid. I'm gay in a country where homosexuality is socially illegal so I know what it feels like to be excluded and discriminated against. What I'm saying is that the ANC has ruined South Africa and has tainted the legit fight against a brutal and inhumane system.
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I think in many cases it's also people having too high expectations. EG "this current government hasn't literally fixed every problem the country ever had, therefore they're the REAL monsters." We saw it in Hungary, where a moderate progressive party was replaced by a punitive right-wing party, but that right-wing party is currently dismantling Hungary's democracy, freedom, and diplomacy.
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The USSR in the 1980s doesn't seem extreme but more of a tired oligarchy. It is more concerning to see the poll numbers among Russians who have much more positive feelings about Stalin than just some nostalgia for the USSR in general that could derive from the issues of stability vs chaos in the 1990s.
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A lot of people seem to be trying to prove jj wrong by talking about military force as being the exemption from the rule of bad governments can’t stay in power on their own and will eventually crumble, regardless of how. First of all I think you’re missing the point of this video. second of all, Since the end of ww2 countries going to war over land has been basically non-existent (with a few exceptions) and most of the time if a government is being toppled by another government it’s because they were pretty bad and acted in ways that caused that event. For example, Sure the United States overthrew saddam Hussein, but that was provoked by his actions for the prior 20 years and certainly shouldn’t justify people looking back at his regime with rose colored glasses. Iraq before the invasion was awful and things would have been just as bad had saddam stayed in power, he was a monster. Under his regime over 182,000 people were either killed, deported or disappeared.
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@overthecounterbeanie
7 months ago
People also sometimes conflate missing one or two particular things from the past for wanting to bring back fallen regimes wholesale.
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