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The German invasion barges sat so low in the water that five or six RN destroyers could have just passed through at high speed and the wash from them would have caused havoc sinking many of them. In fact if there had been anything but a calm sea it would have flooded the barges.
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People also forget, that Britain OUTPRODUCED Germany in terms of planes during the battle of britain. And German losses were staggering. They lost around half of their initial force of aircraft.
Plus, the RAF was never even close to defeat. Germans underestimated the size of the RAF and came to the conclusion they'd eliminated fighter command pretty early on. While the British greatly overestimated the size of the German forces, which is where the "the RAF was close to defeat" myth comes from. British estimates based on this overestimated intelligence, indicated that a few more weeks of intense campaign against airbases would've left them forced to retreat from the south of England. In truth, the Germans wouldn't have been able to afford another two weeks of intense attacks like that.
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The ammount of people online who go "but what if sea lion" to thos day amazes me. D-day was a hurculean task requiring logistical capabilities the Germans never dreamed of having and people thi k Sea Lion is even close to doable.
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Look at Crete, where the Germans only won because of continuous strategic failure by the Brits and even then they almost failed.
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Honestly, after learning Germany planned on invading Britain with river barges of all things (most of them without any power to move, and use the ones that did have power to tow the former), I knew that there was no way for OP Sealion to succeed.
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The Royal Navy overestimated Kriegsmarine's capabilities but was well aware of the numbers.
By the time Denmark fell, Germany had:
- One unfinished aircraft carrier
- 2 Battleships (one of them heavily damaged), 2 under construction
- 3 Pocket Battleships, one of them severely damaged
- 2 hopefully outdated Pre-Dreadnoughts
- 2 heavy Cruisers (the 3rd had just been sunk)
- 4 light Cruisers (2 of the once 6 had been sunk already)
- 20 Destroyers (2 had sunk), 10 of the 20 would sink until the end of April
- a large number of torpedo boats, gunboats, mine layers, commerce raiders, U-Boat supply ships, mine-sweepers, none of them really suited for a fleet action like the capture of Iceland
- 5 dedicated troops transports
- about 50 submarines, which were unsuited for action in the North (due to regular torpedo failures)
Against this fleet, the Royal Navy had 14 battleships, with 5 modern ones under construction, 7 aircraft carriers, 66 Cruisers with 23 more unde construction, 180 Destroyers (90 were modern) and a gigantic logistical and merchant fleet, as well as 60 largely modern submarines and 45 escort and patrol vessels, torpedo boats not counted.
They could overestimate the Germans, but they couldn't deny their unbelievable superiority at sea.
Also: they wouldn't be at war with Italy, France was still and Ally, no german Raiders were in the Atlantic and Japan was still not at war. The Royal Navy could fully concentrate on Germany by April 1940.
There was no defeating the Royal Navy
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yup. I'm glad that the YT history trend is moving towards the truth - that a middle European nation with few resources, limited manpower and flaky allies, could not have won the war.
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Ultimatley the myth that the Germans had the RAF on their ropes was also fostered by the UK themselves. Partly to spread misinformation to their enemy, but also after the war since beating an enemy who was strong is the better story.
It is a similar effect to how certain German Generals tended to get very positive portraials in books allied officers wrote after the war. Because if Rommel was a genius then the people who managed to get a hard fought victory over Rommel have achieved something great.
All the people who create scenarios where Germany wins WW2 ignore the realities of industrialised warfare. The only scenario where Germany gains a (persumably temporary) victory is if the UK actually talked themself into a negotiated peace for one reason or another. That ship basically had sailed when they elected Churchill.
In the end Germany would have lost regardless. Because at the end of the day they would have always attacked the USSR for ideological reasons. And the UK and US would always have supported the USSR against this invasion.
So even in the "best" scenario for Germany. One where they don't declare war on the US and the UK negotiates a cease fire they would still lose in the end. They would operate under the scenario Japans went to war over. An embargo by the UK and US for all kind of material but most importantly oil fighting a Juggernaught that is supported by Lend Lease Programs. And ultimatley a high likleyhood of the UK and US joining the fight anyways (likley over trade war incidents or something similar).
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Only half of Fighter Command was ever fighting the Germans at any one time
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Yeahhhh only way they could’ve had a better chance was if UK was connected to Europe by land or Germany focused on the Navy and Air Force which wasn’t gonna happen without people knowing and would take too long to do not enough resources too
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to be fair hardly anyone had done a successful amphibian assault by that point in the war
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'Here come the last fifty British Spitfires, again...'
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Operation sealion - very silly !
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The same reasons as America wouldn’t be invaded by Germany Italy & Japan even if all 3 worked together or USSR on top but with the added bonus of distance and Canada support or the vast land and armed population too
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Bro used a map that ignored all the airfields in northern ireland.. sad.
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Sea Lion was a feint
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@SiegeMental I live in Winchester if you are ever around please let me take you out for a pint. I'd love to just chill have a few beers and listen to you for hours. I'm obsessed with ww1/2 history and the wife get bored of me talking about it 😂
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How many of our reserve fleet did the US send to Britain?
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Very interesting!
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@itsyaboithanos717
4 days ago
Don’t forget the butchered invasion of Norway. The Kriegsmarine wasn’t anything to write home about at the start of the war, especially the surface fleet. The invasion was a naval pyrrhic victory for the Germans. The Kriegsmarine’s surface fleet was dealt a crucial blow from which they couldn’t really recover. The surface fleet lost half of its destroyers, a heavy and two light cruisers. Those ships were in short supply already. Their loss meant that the fleet that would support operation sea lion had lost its claws, paw and probably an entire leg.
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