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It's absolutely stunning to me that any certificated pilot could do this. I don't care what airplane you're in, if you can't recognize an impending stall and just push the damn nose over, you don't belong in the cockpit.
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I knew the pilot; we had the same CFI. Both of us received plenty of stall recognition and recovery during flight instruction. We had planned to go fly in his new airplane two days after the accident. In his last email, the evening before the accident, he wrote "I think you're going to be very pleasantly surprised at how it takes off and climbs.". My guess is that he was practicing a Vx climb, but failed to lower the nose prior to turning crosswind.
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Thank you Hoover for debriefing these tragic situations so hopefully others can avoid the same fate. RIP
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I’ll never forget my first major stall in a Cessna 150. She dropped her port wing and began to spin. Opposite rudder to stop spin, ease nose down and centre ailerons, full throttle, ease out of dive. Thanks to rigorous training and a high altitude an important lesson was engraved into my consciousness
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I love your videos, the analytic way you explain things along with the human feeling makes your work even more impressive. Thank you Sir. Stay safe out there
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Wow, poor guy was going "Straight up" compared to what was needed. He had so much height he could have pushed forward so many times. He had to have seen he had no speed left at that attack angle, no? You can't fly and bank with no speed. So sad, RIP.
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It’s shocking the amount of ‘training’ disparity for pilots out there, stall identification and recovery was taught within my first 10 hours and hammered in throughout. How you can get these guys again and again pull ridiculous pitch attitudes and low airspeeds just blows my mind and it’s a reflection on the poor training standards
First thing you do when you get any of the signs of a stall- UNLOAD, that’ll get you out of most stalls without doing anything else.
Genuinely tragic to have so many needless deaths
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I struggle to understand how after 240 hours of flying the pilot is seemingly unaware that basic info like recommended climb out speed would be in the plane's POH. If he was struggling with coordinated turns after 240 hours, something is seriously wrong with either the pilot or the flight instructor.
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It's so good you are showing this
When took scuba lessons, I was fortunate to have an instructor who also said that in a new area, resort to a very conservative diving strategy
I imagine flying a new plane, especially as a newbie, is like starting over
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I was an instructor in Gimli Manitoba Canada years ago and had an individual with an American Private Licence and upgrading to a Canadian Commercial. In Canada, spin training with recognition and recovery is mandated. I would heartily recommend flying with a certified aerobatic instructor if you have never experienced spins. Statistically, American pilots have accidents with overstressing the aircraft in spiral dives, while stall/spin accidents can still happen. Best angle climbs are fairly safe in ground effect. Once you have cleared obstacles, increasing speed and using normal climb speeds is highly recommended. My American student was surprised at the abrupt stall and spin entry using cross controls as he was not proficient using his rudder pedals. I feel saddened by these needless accidents and I feel for the surviving family and friends. I have had close calls experiencing wind shear and wake turbulence, I survived by instinctively dropping the nose and coordinating rudder inputs. I have had students pull back and using ailerons to recover from an incipient spin. This tendency is usually a result of the instructor failing to impart the correct skills.
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Aw, man! That really could and should have been a nice flight. I hope the pilot was the only one on board. RIP.
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An Australian retired fighter pilot instructor made it very simple: it’s all about stick position. If it’s in your guts you’re stalling
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Love your channel . A good pilot never stops learning.
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By the time I took my private pilot checkride, I had been asked about Vr, Vsw, Vs, Vne about 50 times by my instructors. What has changed in the instruction world?
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Again unacceptable!
With “240 hrs. of flight time” he knows stalls, period, it doesn’t matter that he only had “22hrs.” in this type and “3hrs.” of training… it’s a ridiculous excuse!
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His pilot certificate came with a complimentary DARWIN 🏆
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I appreciate that your close caption text covered the actual flying aircraft for 100 percent of the video.
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In the old days, ( actually, not that long ago ), "spin training", was part of private pilot flight school. The F.A.A. in its wisdom discontinued spin training, because it was seen as too dangerous. Yes, there were a few accidents, when student pilots and their flight instructors crashed, practicing how "not to" spin and crash. So, the F.A.A. curtailed that training, and flight instructors began only training student pilots to recognize and recover from an impending stall, by recognizing the pre-stall buffet. Students were taught to recover from the buffet. Never entering a spin. So, since then, what's happened in the years since? Lots of pilots, ( who succeeded in acquiring their licenses ), have stalled, spun unintentionally, crashed, and died. Often taking passengers with them. How many people, ( pilots and their passengers ), would have survived over the last 30 years, or more, if "spin training" had never been stopped?
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Thank you Hoover for this video and analysis. Next time I fly, I'll get plenty of altitude and refresh my memory on how my aircraft feels at close to critical angle of attack. My aircraft has a very mild non-stall, just mushes along and bobs with the stick full back, but still it's been months since I practiced.
By the way, I took a class once on crash survival analysis and design. One of the charts in the textbook was a scattergram of results from actual crashes, comparing angle of bank upon impact with the ground with survival rate. Beyond 90 degrees of bank there were almost zero survivals. Keeping the aircraft upright, even with high sink rates, improves survival rates more than almost any other factor.
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Here's the full tragic story:
The pilot is 36-years old and this is an experimental, amateur-built Wittman Tailwind W-10 airplane he recently purchased. He had 243.2 total hours with 22.3 hours in Wittman Tailwind planes, 3.2 hours of which were training. But only 1 hour of training in the accident aircraft. During that training he did 5 takeoffs and landings with the instructor, followed by 2 solo takeoffs and landings. The training did NOT include training on stall characteristics or recovery. When the instructor was asked about the pilot being able to keep the plane coordinated, she said he was having issues with that and did better on his last few flights. She kept reporting that the accident pilot had other time in the aircraft type, but it was over a year ago. The NTSB did not find any evidence of an engine malfunction or other problem that would have precluded normal operation. This is a very sad story and the purpose of this video is to help educate others in the aviation community, or those considering becoming a pilot, on the importance of training on stall characteristics, recognition, and recovery. A life was lost too soon and unfortunately a little bit more training likely would have prevented this mishap.
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